avatar8481 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 There's apparently some debate about that. Depending on his opponents, he may need it to prevent S8 weapons for IDing him. Please don't turn this into a thread on if the toughness bump counts for Instant Death, just realize that not everyone thinks as you do. Not anymore, see the SW Faq Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2238445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Why would you need to give him Saga of the Bear when he gets his base toughness bumped up to 5? Warrior Born, Storm Shield and a Frost Blade is the win. Because Vindicators suck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2238449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Toughness 5, Strength 5, and +1 Attack are all off the debate list now. That being said, I'm considering getting a group of 5 TWC and a WL on a TWM once they start putting out models... Not sure it'll be worth the 700 or so points for 5 with SS's, and the Lord leading them, but they should be able to break most anything they assault. Bar a green tide, mind you, I would wager. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2238478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I'll get a 5 man unit and a Lord on a Wolf when they make the models just as a modelling project. I will break them out for big friendly games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2238696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Toughness 5, Strength 5, and +1 Attack are all off the debate list now. That being said, I'm considering getting a group of 5 TWC and a WL on a TWM once they start putting out models... Not sure it'll be worth the 700 or so points for 5 with SS's, and the Lord leading them, but they should be able to break most anything they assault. Bar a green tide, mind you, I would wager. What about things like hive tyrants and carnifexs, could they deal with them? It might sound like a dumb question but I hardly play so I would not know, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2238822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I disagree with this. If you take a Wolf Lord, you should give him just enough to do his job and no more. Loading HQs down with extraneous crud is a trap too many SW players fall into. Edit: ahh, I see there is a FAQ on the GW site now. Ignore that last bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2239559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Toughness 5, Strength 5, and +1 Attack are all off the debate list now. That being said, I'm considering getting a group of 5 TWC and a WL on a TWM once they start putting out models... Not sure it'll be worth the 700 or so points for 5 with SS's, and the Lord leading them, but they should be able to break most anything they assault. Bar a green tide, mind you, I would wager. What about things like hive tyrants and carnifexs, could they deal with them? It might sound like a dumb question but I hardly play so I would not know, I think S5 wounds T8 on 6's only, so yes, just not very well. At that point they're getting rending anyway, so it may balance out, though getting 6's can be an issue at times with my dice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2239790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Id probly go.... Frostblade, WTT, TWM, Meltabomb, Belt of Russ, Saga of the Wolf Kin... and a pack of 14 Fenrisian Wolves+ Cyberwolf. Runs about 325pts, gives a good amount of killy... and all at I 5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188992-why-take-a-character-over-a-unit/page/2/#findComment-2239879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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