Frontline989 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Im looking over the Codex and I think that of all the terrifying unit combinations in the game this might be one of the worst IMO. Just wondering what you think? Wolf Priest 15 Blood Claws x2 Flamers Plasma Pistol Power Fist Land Raider Crusader Yes I know its over a 1/4 of your army in a 2000 pt game but the say the BC disembark and unload flamers, plasma, and bolt pistols and then assault into CC with Wolf Priest support. Jeesh! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yeah, plenty of people field something similar... I wouldnt include the Plasma Pistol personaly, and Id give the wolf priest a WTT and MBs, maybe runic armor. Dont forget to give your LRC a MM either... Its just not complete until theres a MM on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2238269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKAwolf Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 ditto on the drop the pistol, BC dont shoot well anyways in fact drop pistols from everything except maybe scouts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2238577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greese_m0nkey Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Don't forget the amount of fire comeing from the crusader, With everything combined thier might be nothing left to assualt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2238591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Shoot something else other than your assault target then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Shoot something else other than your assault target then. I hope you mean with the Landraider..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yes, of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Shoot something else other than your assault target then. I hope you mean with the Landraider..... Loz for the Win..... Its amazing how you cant take the obvious for granted on the internet.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontline989 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 ditto on the drop the pistol, BC dont shoot well anywaysin fact drop pistols from everything except maybe scouts In that case I'd drop it from the BC but add it to the WP. I like PP though so just something I'd do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 And drop one BC for Ragnar instead... Pure violence and brutality ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Confusion Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 @ the OP. Yes i would field this. As the others have said. Drop the plasma and get a multimelta for the crusader and there you go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenger Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 And drop one BC for Ragnar instead... Pure violence and brutality ;) Waste of him. use him with grey hunters or a group of wolf guard, why take the option of gaining furious charge and the chance at only gaining +1 attack on the charge. wolf priest is a better option due to the preferred enemy rule as long as they go after the target you aim for from the start. 15 guys with rerolls to hit is like 60 hits + your priest how ever you tool it out. i dont care for power fists as much as i used to, miss using 3 out of 11 and the 1 base attack due to no bonus for additional CCW after the first round of combat seems more of a handicap. plasma pistol loses the appeal due to the 15 pt cost and the BS3 for a group you dont want out shooting, and to be fighting up close its just not in my game plan. Wolf Priest w Necklace + Talisman 15 BC 2x Flamer power weapon ------------------- =355pts Add a Crusader or not up to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 And drop one BC for Ragnar instead... Pure violence and brutality ;) Waste of him. use him with grey hunters or a group of wolf guard, why take the option of gaining furious charge and the chance at only gaining +1 attack on the charge. Because according to the new FAQ, BC still get 2 attacks as minimum - even if Ragnar rolls 1 on his d3 roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 It's certainly a big nasty unit. I tend not to use them as much, although that load out is almost exactly what I'd use if I did. Just drop the plasma pistol entirely in favor of a multi-melta on the landraider. The plasma pistol is never worth it at it's current cost, but especially not on a BS3 model. I'd only consider plasma pistols if they were 7-8 points or less (on BS4 or better models, BCs would have to have 5 point plasma pistols before I'd get them). As far as terrifying units, I can think of others I'd fear more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenger Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 And drop one BC for Ragnar instead... Pure violence and brutality :P Waste of him. use him with grey hunters or a group of wolf guard, why take the option of gaining furious charge and the chance at only gaining +1 attack on the charge. Because according to the new FAQ, BC still get 2 attacks as minimum - even if Ragnar rolls 1 on his d3 roll. never saw the new FAQs, and as ragnar is so expensive id still say Oath of war > Furious charge for our bezerk friends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodacious2182 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Seems to me you run the risk of the unit being to killy and being shot to pieces on your opponents turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 no Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 And drop one BC for Ragnar instead... Pure violence and brutality ;) Waste of him. use him with grey hunters or a group of wolf guard, why take the option of gaining furious charge and the chance at only gaining +1 attack on the charge. Because according to the new FAQ, BC still get 2 attacks as minimum - even if Ragnar rolls 1 on his d3 roll. Negatory- it says you choose to use a particular rule. If you roll to see how many attack youll get you are quite stuck with it- for better or worse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I see that, and I raise you: Wolf Priest w/ WTT Wolf Guard w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Bolter 14 BCs Flamer Power First Land Raider Crusader And I run that in 1500pts / And the FAQ clearly says you gain D3 with a minimum of +2, not you choose one or the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yeah, your right. I went and reread it after I saw the thread about it. *sighs*. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceWolf13C Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 And drop one BC for Ragnar instead... Pure violence and brutality :D Waste of him. use him with grey hunters or a group of wolf guard, why take the option of gaining furious charge and the chance at only gaining +1 attack on the charge. Because according to the new FAQ, BC still get 2 attacks as minimum - even if Ragnar rolls 1 on his d3 roll. i believe he is talking about 14 BC + ragnar + wolf priest = prefered enemy with furious charge. i personally use ulrik with 15 BC 2 flamers and a PF in LRC. very effective against bikers and monstrous creatures. not so useful against IG or eldar but who needs rerolls against them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189114-would-you-field-this/#findComment-2239953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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