Thunderpup Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 The new FAQ from Games Workshop states that Bloodclaws will never have less than two attacks on the charge, no matter what you roll for Insane Bravado. Which do you see as the better choice to attach Ragnar too. Grey Hunters? or Bloodclaws? Personally i may have finally found a place for some bloodclaws in my army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I hope to test this at some point when I have the points for Ragnar, 15 BC, Fist and an LRC. Should wake the enemy up nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Since Ragnar's ability doesnt reduce the bonus, it makes BC + Ragnar very interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpup Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 Especially since, if you take a full pack with 2 special weapons and a fist, you get 63 ~ 80 attacks at iniative 5 and 6? <drool> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 My vote is with BC's if you are rolling into the face of the enemy in a LRC since they will have 15 models vs 10. If you go Redeemer then maybe GH's for the flexibility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonelawler Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I think blood claw are better and in the books he seems to running around with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Take blood claws and a wolf priest. Now you can re-roll those attacks. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I still think Grey Hunters are the better place for Ragnar, but no longer is putting Ragnar with claws a bad idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 ever since I read the FAQ I can't stop thinking of fielding Ragnar with bloodclaws in my next game even though I have bought a bunch of tanks. I mean...they always are I5 and Str 5 (yes you need to make the inisiative save...) But are you kidding me? It is insane! It is one huge blob of death! Unles your oponent have lots of long fangs with plasma canons and vindikators you will destroy everything you are coming across! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I like him with Grey Hunters becouse of the standard. My dream group is Grey Hunters + Arjac + Ragnar. Arjac with 4+ d3 str 10 attacks on the charge or counter-attack? Then add in rerolling to hit for being champion, then reroll 1's to wound with banner.. given a str 10 is likly to wound on a 2+.. How disgusting is that? Oh ya and then the Hunters can do their fist.. asuming there was anything left after Ragnar opened up on them. Though, 15 blood claws does sound apealing when you think of it as 4/5 attacks x15 being 60-75 attacks with naked BCs? Mmm.. maybe i will have to look into them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2238953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devolved Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Does anyone Run Ragnar with grey hunters + mark of the wulfen + a wolf guard pack leader with mark of the wulfen? 2x (1 + D6 + D3) rending attacks with a Banner to reroll 1s might hurt. Average of 13 rending attacks from the two wulfen + re-rolling all 1s + everything else in the unit, might hurt something really nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Wolf Guard >> Blood Claws. Statistically speaking you are more likely to get more attacks. (3 base + d3 on the charge vs 2 base + d3 on the charge, so the minimum is 4 for both) And you can put in considerably more Power Weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Wolf Guard >> Blood Claws. Statistically speaking you are more likely to get more attacks. (3 base + d3 on the charge vs 2 base + d3 on the charge, so the minimum is 4 for both) And you can put in considerably more Power Weapons. How exatly can you put in "considerably more Power Weapons." If anything they get less attacks with power weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Wolf Guard can buy multiple power weapons as opposed to a unit of Blood Claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsloth Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Wolf Guard can buy multiple power weapons as opposed to a unit of Blood Claws. The wolf guard with pw is also slightly cheaper than the bc w pw and with higher ws/bs and at least as many attacks (on a 1 from ragnar) or more on the charge too (and more after the charge or on the counterattack). What the bc have going for them is their maximum unit size and the fact that you dont need to take a 275 pt hq to make them scoring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 GH or WG for me. Putting Ragnar and 10 GH with one WG in a Redeemer might be nice. I hate spending that much on an HQ, tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Take blood claws and a wolf priest. Now you can re-roll those attacks. :) About time someone figured that one out! :D Ive been waiting for people to post up about the Priests and their usefulness!!! : high five : Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yeah, that's nothing new. How about one of each. WP and BC's and Ragnar and BC's both in LRC's....cuz running two is often better than running just one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greese_m0nkey Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I have run two full 15 man squads before one with WP and one with WGBL they worked great. I am looking forword to tring out Ragnar with them, I might have to by more dice though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189128-ragnar-blackmane-and-troops/#findComment-2239897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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