Ferrata Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I have two options for the chapter I wish to develop, both of them Dark Angel successor chapters with a slight twist of the hunting of the Fallen. I have no real attachment to either idea, but I’m really not sure which one would be easier to develop. Neither name is the final name, just a placeholder until I can think of a fitting name. Idea 1: Angels of Naivety When the Angels of Naivety were founded, the Hunt for the Fallen was going pretty well and the Unforgiven decided that there was no point introducing more marines into the knowledge of the Fallen. Thusly, the Angels of Naivety have no idea about the Fallen. The idea behind this chapter is they are what the Dark Angels should have become if Luther hadn’t betrayed them. They show all the true values that the Lion taught, they are the perfect Dark Angels. I’m not sure whether to have the other Unforgiven interact with them, treating them with big puffy eyes looking at what they could have become, maybe even going out their way to protect them from the darkness of the world (especially of the Fallen). Idea 2: Angels of Truth Almost the complete opposite of the other chapter. Here, the new chapter master decided to tell the entire chapter about the Fallen. Every marine is a hunter of the Fallen, they all know the secret. This means they actually are pretty good at doing this job. In doing this, all of the of the Unforgiven hate them, not as much as the Fallen, but they are pretty high on the list. I’m not sure how far to push this, have the Dark Angels and their cronies even begun attacking them or releasing bad press about them. The idea behind this chapter was to see what it would be like if an entire chapter hunted the Fallen. They are quite open enough to tell everyone about it, but they have taken a major step in that direction. I do have a couple of reserve ideas, ranging from finishing the Basilisks of the Crypt (a cursed founding chapter), fleshing out the Disciples of Man (a chapter linked to the Wings of Death), or any other idea that pops into my head. So, in short, which of these ideas would people be more interested in seeing fleshed out. Ferrata Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostLegion Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 If you're asking opinion of which we think you should do, I suggest you go with option 2. Personally I think this would be an interesting chapter to create and offers significant potential for some fun thinking overall...I would be interested to see where you take this one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2238622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 The Disciples were the subject of your Lost Chapter comp entry, weren't they? As a fan of the Wings, I would be interested to see the other side of the story examined. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2238705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte of Slaanesh Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I have to say I would kind of raise an eyebrow at the Angels of Naivety. I suppose it might be kind of ignorant to suppose every chapter wants a blood-thirsty name that strikes fear into the hearts of enemies...but that definitely doesn't. I do definitely like the theme behind it though so I guess I'm just critiquing the name. Seems a lot different (in preserving naivety when all marines are just genetically engineered killers) from other chapter ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2238709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I agree with Aurelius, I'd like to see more of the Disciples :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2238718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Cast my vote for the Disciples. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2238727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 The second of the two proposed chapters would probably be the more satisfying IA to write. Of course, I suspect whichever choice you make will turn out quite well. Good luck with the challenge! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2239156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon de Gravier Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Option 2 sinply because the other's name isn't very good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2239574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 For the comments on names, like I said "Neither name is the final name, just a placeholder until I can think of a fitting name.". Like the Basilisks were once known as the Doom Turtles, I use placeholder names to start writing an IA until I think of a good name for them. I could go further with the Disciples, but I feel like I would be cheating because I've already begun them. Maybe I should do two? On a side note, whilst writing the Wings of Death IA, I decided I didn't overly like the name Disciples of Man, it seemed to lack that cutting edge of a Space Marine chapter. I like the Disciples bit, but of Man sounds a little weak. Disciples of War, Iron Disciples, Goldern Disciples.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2239771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon de Gravier Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 How about: Disciples of Justice or Dark Disciples maybe even Disciples of the Golden Throne or DotGT for short :) ;) :yes: :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2239780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mordray Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Honestly, I like the first idea. I think it'd be interesting to see what the Dark Angels could have been and how the Imperium would treat them without their secrecy. That and I don't know or remember the other two chapters... so I can't comment on them. - Mordray Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2239882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I agree with Mordray. I like the first idea better. Of course with the mighty Ferrata writing them I'm sure any of the idea will be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2240207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I think both of the DA Chapters have potential to be good, the second one is more interesting in itself, but the first would be more interesting from the point of view of how the DA + successors view them. On the whole I think I like the first one better, I like the whole 'big brother/little brother' protective thing, could even have them trying to find out the 'family secret'. 'Angels of Innocence' is possibly a slightly cooler name if you did go with them, although that's not important right now. With the other option, I just don't think they'd be around long enough to be worth having an IA. The Unforgiven are so secretive, paranoid and also willing to do whatever it takes to keep the Fallen hidden that I can't see them allowing such a Chapter to live at all. It's just too much of a risk that the truth could get out. I figure as soon as Azrael(sp?) got wind of what they'd done, he'd be rounding up a half-dozen 'normal' Unforgiven Chapters and it would be 'bye bye Angels of Truth'. On the other hand I suppose that could make them more interesting; on the run, poorly supplied, hunted even as they hunt the Fallen. Hmm, now I think I'm changing my mind..... :ph34r: In truth, I'm sure you could make either work. Can you give us a brief reminder of what the Disciples are all about? I remember the name but I can't honestly remember the details! Well, I've not answered your original question at all, but hopefully I've brought up a few things to think about! cheers Lysimachus PC 6/40 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2240590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 The Short "IA" on Disciples of Man. If I did the Disciples, the previous IA was way too Wings based, it would need to be their own IA really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2240713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Smash Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 The Angels of Naievty would be so cool. The second option seems too much like a cliche to me personally. If you went with the first one you could model them more clean cut than regular Dark Angels, to represnt their comparitive innocence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189143-ferratas-gauntlet-chapter/#findComment-2242531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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