Wargear question

[Schertenleib]

I've been looking through my list and wondering about wargear. Here's the example:

 

Nine man Greyhunter pack in a Rhino w/ WG pack leader.

Greyhunters are equipped with; melta, MOTW, a Standard, and a powerfist.

 

Is it more competitive to combine the wargear (one model MOTW & Meltagun, one model Standard & Powerfist), or to spead it out over the pack to make more individualized models for the sake of wound allocation?

[Bearboy]

Spread them out. You can have many situations where a peice of wargear is useless in a squad:

 

Out of assault range, Out of melta range, no enemy armour left or nearby, in combat so can't shoot etc.

 

That way you get more individual models and your better protected again't Telion and other units.

[commander alexander]

I would say keep it to a few models; melta and MotW on one guy, (plasma pistol?), power whatever and standard on one r the other.

[Natanael]

Spread them out. I would not risk to lose my melta AND motw just because one failed save.

[LPetersson]

It depends entirely on what you think is more risky.

 

In your example you have MotW, Melta gun, Standard and Power Fist spread over 2-4 models.

 

Imagine that you have to take 7 saves. If you have them spread over 4 models, you run the risk of losing 2 of those 'toys', but if only 2 models had them, they'd be safe.

 

It's also worth bearing in mind what you're likely to be facing. If you don't have any Ultramarine players near you, then you don't have to worry about Telion, where as if he is usually around, that's a very good reason to spread the equipment out to as many models as possible.

 

I personally think that this is the kind of question that there is no right or wrong answer to, you'll just have to see how you fare.

 

I tend to give my standardbearers a powerfist though, but that's just because the model looks like it has one...

[stinkenheim]

spread them out. with upgrades like tellion, units like vindicares and powers like JOWW its becoming easier to pick out individual targets. having 2 or 3 pieces on single model will make them obvious targets.

[Wolf Lord Cuneglas]

I like to run MotW on my melta, because it adds an additional CC attack. With MotW not using any weapons, the bolt pistol CCW doesn't do you any good. I think it's a cheese move, but it benefits you in the end. Because really, who gives the maniac a melta?

[Lord Rao]

I like to run MotW on my melta, because it adds an additional CC attack. With MotW not using any weapons, the bolt pistol CCW doesn't do you any good. I think it's a cheese move, but it benefits you in the end. Because really, who gives the maniac a melta?

 

No-one does. For exactly the reason you just described. IIRC it even says so in the desciption: MotW cannot be combined with any equipment.

 

 

LR

[Natanael]

IIRC it says "can not be combined with any special close combat weapons" or something like that.

[Quillen]

Indeed you could have a flamer guy with MotW. it would be fine and means you can loose more peeps and still be able to do great damage.

 

I always use to run plasma pistols and Power Weapons/fists on the same toon. And this has always done me well. Yes you can over heat. And yes he could die, but not likely and it's more liekly you lose the weapon to incoming fire then over heat. So make the squad have 3 or 4 bad ass guys so if 6 die no big deal.

[SamaNagol]

Mathematically it makes sense to put them on as few models as possible. While there are a very limited number of instances where single models can be targeted, it is far far more likely that you will have to roll a large number of saves.

 

Conversely for items like Storm Shields you should always try to put them on models with no other equipment, because you will be taking saves on them.