dizzy-xc Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Just wondering. Gonna magnetize and am trying to determine where weapon goes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtySixNights Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 What Pattern is the landraider, Crusader/Reedemer i assume? if so the multimelta is pintle-mounted and shoots 360 Degrees. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2242860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 if the weapon can move, it can fire at whatever it can point at. If it cant it gets 45 degrees. If its on a turret or sponson that you glued imobile, it can shoot at what it would be able to point at if you hadnt glued it. see page 59. Also the rule for pintle mounted is 45 degrees unless its mounted on the turret. And yes that does mean the exact same vehicle can having different properties depending on how you model it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2242875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 What Pattern is the landraider, Crusader/Reedemer i assume? if so the multimelta is pintle-mounted and shoots 360 Degrees. Standard LR [edited] upgrade... So mount it on a turret hatch that turns and all is well in 360` land? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2242885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 What Pattern is the landraider, Crusader/Reedemer i assume? if so the multimelta is pintle-mounted and shoots 360 Degrees. Standard LR [edited] upgrade... So mount it on a turret hatch that turns and all is well in 360` land? Short answer: Yes Long answer: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2242890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 As Frosty points out, a pintle-mounted weapon has a 45 degree firing arc per the BRB. There are no turrets on a Land Raider...so unless you model a turret onto your land raider, you're sticking it on the PINTLE coming off the hatch like the rest of us. That hatch is not a turret if you glue it down. I suppose if you don't glue it or use fancy magnets so it will spin 360 degrees, then yes, it does have 360 firing arc. I'm not sure if that just counts a pintle or if it can in fact spin legally, so I'm curious to hear some more weight on both sides. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2243360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard12 Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I say yes as, from how I see it, the pintle is mounted on a turret of sorts. The Cupolla seems to be able to spin as most rhino storm bolters are able to fire 360'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2243376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 As Frosty points out, a pintle-mounted weapon has a 45 degree firing arc per the BRB. There are no turrets on a Land Raider...so unless you model a turret onto your land raider, you're sticking it on the PINTLE coming off the hatch like the rest of us. That hatch is not a turret if you glue it down. I suppose if you don't glue it or use fancy magnets so it will spin 360 degrees, then yes, it does have 360 firing arc. I'm not sure if that just counts a pintle or if it can in fact spin legally, so I'm curious to hear some more weight on both sides. GW has clarified that the hatch on a rhino is a turret. It was posted earlier in a mail from Robin (rules guy @GW). GW artwork and models also support this by showing Rhinos with rotating hatches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2244740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 A Rhino is not a land raider. Precedent for one doesn't necessarily carry across. 45* arc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2245204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Really? It's the same exact structure. It carries from rhinos to razorbacks right in the FAQ, and by extension anything with the same hull; you'd seriously rule out one similar hull with all the same (important) structure? The ruling is the same for all: if it can turn that way, it can shoot that way. 360 around, 45 up and down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2245255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 A Rhino is not a land raider. Precedent for one doesn't necessarily carry across. 45* arc. The clarification regarded the Space Marine tank hatches more than the Rhino itself. The Rhino was used as an example but the FAQ tells us the rules are the same across all vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189431-land-raider-multi-melta-upgrade-is-360/#findComment-2245493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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