SM Idol or is it The Imperiums got Talent?

[Solomon de Gravier]

Yes, that's the one! I still haven't had time to go look as I've been ill most of last week and I'm still recovering (stupid anti-biotics are making me weak... :P ). I'll go loo as soon as I can though!

 

BBL

 

;) I think you mean look? :D :yes: B) ;)

[Dosjetka]

Yes, that's the one! I still haven't had time to go look as I've been ill most of last week and I'm still recovering (stupid anti-biotics are making me weak... :cuss ). I'll go loo as soon as I can though!

 

BBL

 

:lol: I think you mean look? :D :) B) ;)

Humhum... <_<

Yes I did :lol:

[mousetrap]

It lives.....

 

Thats right, I'm back after a summer away, sorry for the monster delay! I'm gonna try and fettle this over the coming weeks or months! so a brief recap of what the core aspects are is needed: (if you need more info I've tried to label the thread pages where we thrashed out the real detail of each aspect)

 

I've re read the whole thread and it took an hour which has proved useful in some respects as I have fresh ideas on items I was struggling with back in the day!

 

Name: Lords of War or Dark Scars (not worried about the need to have a dark angels plot line in the name as the dark bit could feasibly come from a referenece to a bad time in the chapters history).

 

Homeworld: Quisto'Rol (description on page 2).

 

Existing Civilisations: 2. Quistoan's who live atop a plateau and spread into the forest (Tree Houses) in the valley below, slow expansion but high population density. Rol's who live on the coastal plains beyond the forest, who expand their territory quickly at the expense of population expansion. (Page 2)

 

Traits: Quistoan's (Venerable, heraldric, hero's and sophisticated tree and plateau dwellers) Rol's (Savage, fast moving and expansive plain dwellers). They meet in the middle at the forest's boundaries and fight over supremacy until a common enemy forces them to unite. (Page 2)

 

Languages: 2 Quistoan and Rola, plus the astartes favourite language when they get involved.

 

Astartes Involvement: Astartes get involved after warp tears appear above Quisto'Rol and dump Space Hulks on the planet which hold a nasty Xenos that the natives fight (page 4). Initially the Astartes don't see these as a problem as the aliens can't get off the planet and the medieval inhabitants are expendable, but as the frequency of tears and the foul non astartes filth the tears belch forth grow in number they get involved. (Not sure if the astartes should watch the planet to make sure the xenos can't get off and have no intention of intervening (the Quistoans and Rol's are expendable) until they see the fervour and ferocity of the the 2 tribes fighting or whether there should be another reason, I do like the relic Idea we had on Page 3 and do like the idea of chaos getting involved later on once the chapter has been created. See rabidus post #68 (Page 3). I still think this needs refining and I'll get on with that! I need to create a xenos and their modus operandi, we're nearly there with this if you take the time to read the back ends of Page 3 and Page 4.

 

Founding Chapter: White Scars. The thinking behind this was down to the similarities between this chapters background and theirs, but am quite open to a bit of blood angel action as I really want suicide squads! What do you reckon?

 

Thats about it for what was created, I still need to create a lot of fluff on the stuff I have got but also need to totally work out:

 

Heroes (one is a dreadnaught)

Battles

Battle Cry

Squads of Note

 

I know I haven't said a great deal that you could help input with as yet but my aim is to reassess and compile the full details soon, the idea of this post is to get the thread back in the public eye! Its a big ask to get people back on board after so long away but all help is gladly received!

 

Oh yeah and the chapter master has a jet bike!

 

Its been so long I can't remember exactly what I need to do so prompts and nudges in the right direction are welcomed!!

 

Thats it, thanks to all who helped out previously and I hope we can get some more new contributors as well, the knowledge pool is spreading!!!

 

Al

[Argon]

It lives.....

 

Thats right, I'm back after a summer away, sorry for the monster delay! I'm gonna try and fettle this over the coming weeks or months! so a brief recap of what the core aspects are is needed: (if you need more info I've tried to label the thread pages where we thrashed out the real detail of each aspect)

 

Welcome back! Don't worry about the break, everyone needs one now and then.

 

 

Name: Lords of War or Dark Scars (not worried about the need to have a dark angels plot line in the name as the dark bit could feasibly come from a referenece to a bad time in the chapters history).

 

Don't worry about the "Dark" part. It doesn't have to mean anything. The Dark Angels were the Dark Angels long before Caliban got blown up.

 

Existing Civilisations: 2. Quistoan's who live atop a plateau and spread into the forest (Tree Houses) in the valley below, slow expansion but high population density. Rol's who live on the coastal plains beyond the forest, who expand their territory quickly at the expense of population expansion. (Page 2)

 

Traits: Quistoan's (Venerable, heraldric, hero's and sophisticated tree and plateau dwellers) Rol's (Savage, fast moving and expansive plain dwellers). They meet in the middle at the forest's boundaries and fight over supremacy until a common enemy forces them to unite. (Page 2)

 

The "Quistoans" and the "Rols"? On the planet "Quisto'rol"? Not the most inspired names of ever, really.

 

Astartes Involvement: Astartes get involved after warp tears appear above Quisto'Rol and dump Space Hulks on the planet which hold a nasty Xenos that the natives fight (page 4).

 

Hulks? As in more than one? That's astronomically rare, and would more than enough reason to an entire Chapter, if not two.

 

I need to create a xenos and their modus operandi, we're nearly there with this if you take the time to read the back ends of Page 3 and Page 4.

 

You could just use Orks, but if you want to make your own xenos go right ahead.

 

Founding Chapter: White Scars. The thinking behind this was down to the similarities between this chapters background and theirs, but am quite open to a bit of blood angel action as I really want suicide squads! What do you reckon?

 

White Scars would be more likely, but if you want Blood Angels you should go for it. However, if you did White Scars you could have something sort of like the Repentia, a squad of battle-brothers that choose to seek forgiveness and absolution through death.

 

Battles

 

Only do battles if they had a major effect on your chapter.

 

 

I know I haven't said a great deal that you could help input with as yet but my aim is to reassess and compile the full details soon, the idea of this post is to get the thread back in the public eye! Its a big ask to get people back on board after so long away but all help is gladly received!

 

I'll be happy to lend my aid again.

 

Oh yeah and the chapter master has a jet bike!

 

Wait, what? There's only one Imperial Jetbike left in the galaxy, and it's owned by the Master of the Ravenwing. Have your lads been messing with xenos tech?

 

Its been so long I can't remember exactly what I need to do so prompts and nudges in the right direction are welcomed!!

 

Go through this entire topic and read every post. That might help.

[mousetrap]

It lives.....

 

Thats right, I'm back after a summer away, sorry for the monster delay! I'm gonna try and fettle this over the coming weeks or months! so a brief recap of what the core aspects are is needed: (if you need more info I've tried to label the thread pages where we thrashed out the real detail of each aspect)

 

Welcome back! Don't worry about the break, everyone needs one now and then.

 

Glad to be Back!!

 

Name: Lords of War or Dark Scars (not worried about the need to have a dark angels plot line in the name as the dark bit could feasibly come from a referenece to a bad time in the chapters history).

 

Don't worry about the "Dark" part. It doesn't have to mean anything. The Dark Angels were the Dark Angels long before Caliban got blown up.

 

So you prefer the Dark Scars to Lords of War?

 

Existing Civilisations: 2. Quistoan's who live atop a plateau and spread into the forest (Tree Houses) in the valley below, slow expansion but high population density. Rol's who live on the coastal plains beyond the forest, who expand their territory quickly at the expense of population expansion. (Page 2)

 

Traits: Quistoan's (Venerable, heraldric, hero's and sophisticated tree and plateau dwellers) Rol's (Savage, fast moving and expansive plain dwellers). They meet in the middle at the forest's boundaries and fight over supremacy until a common enemy forces them to unite. (Page 2)

 

The "Quistoans" and the "Rols"? On the planet "Quisto'rol"? Not the most inspired names of ever, really.

 

Good point, I'll come up with something, I like Quistoans, maybe that could be ther general term for both tribes once they are united by the astartes?

 

Astartes Involvement: Astartes get involved after warp tears appear above Quisto'Rol and dump Space Hulks on the planet which hold a nasty Xenos that the natives fight (page 4).

 

Hulks? As in more than one? That's astronomically rare, and would more than enough reason to an entire Chapter, if not two.

Rare but not unheard of!? I think it depends on the xenos we make up that comes with them, maybe 2 different xenos? As I mentioned I like the idea of Chaos involvement later on once the chapter is formed so wouldn't i need there to be a warp tear near by in order to get those badboys involved? Maybe it could be like a warp hotspot where a tear opens and closes randomly?

 

I need to create a xenos and their modus operandi, we're nearly there with this if you take the time to read the back ends of Page 3 and Page 4.

 

You could just use Orks, but if you want to make your own xenos go right ahead.

 

Would orks travel on a hulk? wouldn't they be too rock hard for medieval humans to fend off?

 

Founding Chapter: White Scars. The thinking behind this was down to the similarities between this chapters background and theirs, but am quite open to a bit of blood angel action as I really want suicide squads! What do you reckon?

 

White Scars would be more likely, but if you want Blood Angels you should go for it. However, if you did White Scars you could have something sort of like the Repentia, a squad of battle-brothers that choose to seek forgiveness and absolution through death.

I like these repentia, will look into them, I just like th eidea of something that makes the marines more powerful but makes them pay the ultimate price, i ideally want a commander that has figured out how to control this thing 'like the thirst', he is commander of the squad and tries to nurse his comrades who fall foul of th esame curse to overcome it and control it like he does but to no avail.

 

Battles

 

Only do battles if they had a major effect on your chapter.

I wanna do battles but I think thats for a later point in time when the rest is ironed out..

 

I know I haven't said a great deal that you could help input with as yet but my aim is to reassess and compile the full details soon, the idea of this post is to get the thread back in the public eye! Its a big ask to get people back on board after so long away but all help is gladly received!

 

I'll be happy to lend my aid again.

It will be mucg appreciated!

 

Oh yeah and the chapter master has a jet bike!

 

Wait, what? There's only one Imperial Jetbike left in the galaxy, and it's owned by the Master of the Ravenwing. Have your lads been messing with xenos tech?

Yeah, we came up with a loophole for that, hulk crashes that is a pre heresy SM ship with relics on, 1 such relic is a jetbike. I just want to convert the master of the ravenwing!! I think this could possibly come to the fore when the chapter has been established sometime and that randomly opening warp tear spits out the aforementioned hulk carrying the jet bike. Knowing how covetous the White scars and everyone else would be of it they keep it mega quiet and only use it so sparingly that the people who see it don't beleive it themselves. Bit of chapter folklore like the blood angels flaw..only they know abnout it. Embelishment would be needed ofcourse?!

 

Its been so long I can't remember exactly what I need to do so prompts and nudges in the right direction are welcomed!!

 

Go through this entire topic and read every post. That might help.

Here's looking forwad to getting on the progree bandwagon once more!!

 

 

i really should have used a better colour than green so sorry!

[Dosjetka]

Hey there mousetrap! :D

Glad to have you back again.

 

Anyway, about the xenos race, I'm up for it to help you.

Also, I'll have a re-read through the whole thing and then comment again soon.

 

Ludovic

[mousetrap]

Hey Guys,

 

I'm still rewriting and adding details to the 'chronicles of....' I've still not decided on the name. I thin kI may have taken some advice a little too seriously as I was advised to add depth to my chapter through the origins and history of them....I'm not kidding this thing is longer and more detailed then my english essays at school!

 

Am I going overboard going into the original religious beliefs of my lads or is it all good fluff.

 

As I'm no where near addressing the long standing problem with the xenos and reason the astartes got involved can people plpease have a look at the previous posts and appraise, advise and chastise accordingly!

 

The mega post is coming but it needs a little more time...

 

Watch this space!

 

Al

[Dosjetka]

I'll have a re-read in the next few days. It may take some time but I'll do it! :D

 

Ludovic

[mousetrap]

Hello Liber Writers,

 

I'm in the middle of revamping my chapter origins and history but I need help bad, I've got 'writers hate' where everything I put down looks cr@p!

 

So first point I need help with:

 

As you may or may not know I have 2 distinct tribes on 1 planet that the Astartes recruit from, I've got the original belief structure for one of the tribes sorted but I'm struggling with the other. So far I have:

 

Three brother gods; Azora, God 2 and God 3 born of the planet to protect her.

 

Celestial attack on planet is begun.

 

Brothers defend and defeat the attack only for God 2 to fall during the last moments of the battle.

 

Losing his brother corrupts God 3.

 

God 3 goes mental and tries to kill the planet for not saving his brother God 2.

 

Azora realises this poses more of a threat to the planet than the original celestial attack.

 

Azora also realises his Alligiance's are torn he has to choose between his planet and his brother, seeing that his brother is lost he defends the planet.

 

When it comes to delivering the finishing blow he can't do it and his brother mortally wounds him during the pause, realising his error, Azora summons what's left of his might kills his brother and dies himself.

 

The belief structure revolves around that story which in turn gives rise to characteristics like:

 

Gives the people resolve to do what is needed.

 

Belief that Azora will rise again within the people of the tribe, hopefulls are chosen by their likeness to him.

 

etc etc.

 

What I need is for these bits to be embellished, I need a good attacker that isn't another xenos as they are a primitive race to begin with that thinks they are alone so what could it be? weather

 

Next point:

 

I need a reason for the 2 tribes to come together at some point in the future which at the minute seems to be a common enemy, I've toyed around with a number of ideas mainly different xenos's, but keep failing to let it grip me, so here's where I need help. My grasp on the logisitcs of the year 40,000 is weaker than most but could a chaos corruption as a result of a tear be a good starting point, here's my idea;

 

Tear opens in the midst of the tribal battles.

 

first cases of mutations are reported, killed or exiled there numbers continue to grow until the two tribes have to pull together to fight the common mutated foe, there numbers continue to grow, both tribes are taking heavy casualties and losing equal numbers to chaos, until the chaos hordes get so large the astartes become aware of the potential new stronghold and come down and intervene.

 

Is that at all plausible as I reckon that could have legs if it is...

 

Also I don't want a white scar or dark angel successor chapter anymore, not after reading about the raven guard, by far the coolest and perfectly suited to my chapter needs (Fast, stealth and the mutation I have in mind for the gene seed is pretty freaking cool, not sure if its been done before but if not I'm pretty happy with it).

 

Are there any specific requirements needed to be a raven guard successor (timeline of founding that sort of thing?).

 

As always, all help is gratefully received.

 

Regards

 

Al