Grey Mage Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Lastly, I dont think its a good idea to have a hurricane bolter on an IC Dreadnaught- you lose an attack in CC, a Meltagun shot, and you dont get a whole lot in return. Though the model does look kinda cool. An Ironclad with chainfist only has 2 attacks regardless of other equipment, so the hurricane bolter is superior. Chainfists don't get a dual-wield bonus unless the second weapon is also a chainfist. Walkers always get +1 attack for each additional weapon after the first, chainfist or not. BRB pg 73, insert under "Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapons" 3rd paragraph. You could of course also check the back area of C:SM, pgs. 137 and 144, where in both instances it lists an Ironclad as having A 2(3). Even without pg. 73 of the core book, Codex> BRB. Ironclads get three attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2249400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetterkey Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 False, a chainfist is not a DCCW. Ironclads with chainfists strike last and get 2 attacks by strict RAW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2249555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 False, a chainfist is not a DCCW. Ironclads with chainfists strike last and get 2 attacks by strict RAW. It doesnt have to be a DCCW, it just has to be a weapon mounted on a walker. Look yourself, any close combat weapon works in this instance. Edit: Though you are correct, when using the chainfist its still at I 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2249628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetterkey Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 By my reading, this does not overrule the earlier "only a second power fist, thunder hammer, or lightning claw can confer a bonus attack to a model equipped with one of these weapons," as the later section refers specifically to Dreadnought close combat weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2250228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 A MASSIVE ****ING MELTA WEAPON Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2250252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 By my reading, this does not overrule the earlier "only a second power fist, thunder hammer, or lightning claw can confer a bonus attack to a model equipped with one of these weapons," as the later section refers specifically to Dreadnought close combat weapons. It specificly refers to Close Combat Weapons in the paragraph I refer to, not DCCWs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2250318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Brother captain Alecto, what was that about? I will also vouch for lots typhoon speeders with heavy bolters. Move 12" and fire frag and heavy bolter at infantry hordes (say nids for example) is great. Move 6" and fire the Krak and heavy bolter at light tanks and MC's (nids again spring to mind) is very nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2251307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Eight Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 fast-kangaroo you will never beat my scorpions no matter what you do :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189637-must-defeat-the-red-scorpions-plz-help/page/2/#findComment-2287986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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