IA: Dragon Claws

[NightrawenII]

It is unsure what led the chapter to cut themselves off from the imperium, several have speculated some form of chaos worship within the chapters recruits, others speculate that the blade of eternal flame was somehow tainted, although none of these rumours are proven, all agree that Aetheum was torn apart as the result of these “disturbances”.

- Eh, I'm sure the Inquisition, especially the Ordo Hereticus, will be very interested in these 'rumours'.

 

remember they essentially disappeared after the destruction of Aetheum, im sure there will be more pressing issues for the ordo hereticus than chasing a ghost story for a few milennia...

That's basically purpose and reason of Ordo Hereticus, They are poking their noses in business of other people. The Chapter cut themselves off from Imperium, destroyed its homeworld and then mysteriously disappeared. Yep, the Ordo Hereticus will be very interested in them.

 

Organisation

Since then, the chapter has split into two factions or kindreds as they are known. The Dragonkin and Wyrmkin both seek to embody the aspects of their first leaders, Valthek and Gorgon, respectively. These kindreds have known to argue, and on rare occasion, has led to outright war.

Although there is a major schism within the chapter...

- Wyrmkin...

- And as nearly every fantasy story teaches us, the internal dispute and feud leads to the darkness. Really, this is literal equivalent of Chaos' Invitation at the doors of your Fortress Monastery.

 

not every chapter is completely perfect. Its the instruction of their famed chapter master to divide leadership, plus, the iron hands skirmish on a clan-company level to "weed out the weak". The names are better than DC faction #1 and #2, if there are any other suggestions for names i will be listening intently.

But you have spiritual schism here.

The Clan-Companies' skirmishes are result of disagreement on 'trivial' matters, not fundamental disagreement with the teachings of the other Clan-companies.

 

There is the typo in the "Wyrmkin". :)

 

1 the chapter has one doctrine, but two ways of interpreting it.

2 im not sure how to go about this, the alternative i to have two separate offices, or to have chaplains part of the kindreds, while something else takes their place, this could simply be a new rank of my invention (Councillor-master or something), or have another specialist rank take their place, such as techmarines or such...im not sure which would fit better. Thoughts?

The Chaplains are the guys, who interprets the doctrine, they are the spiritual leaders of Chapter.

Technically speaking, you don't need any mediator, look at the Blood Angels. The Chaplains and Sanguinary Priests are followers/preachers of 'slightly' different teachings, yet they don't slaughter themselves.

The problem I have with the current version is that you have Chapter divided into two rival groups instead of two interpretation of the same doctrine.

[Master Exorcist]

It is unsure what led the chapter to cut themselves off from the imperium, several have speculated some form of chaos worship within the chapters recruits, others speculate that the blade of eternal flame was somehow tainted, although none of these rumours are proven, all agree that Aetheum was torn apart as the result of these “disturbances”.

- Eh, I'm sure the Inquisition, especially the Ordo Hereticus, will be very interested in these 'rumours'.

 

remember they essentially disappeared after the destruction of Aetheum, im sure there will be more pressing issues for the ordo hereticus than chasing a ghost story for a few milennia...

That's basically purpose and reason of Ordo Hereticus, They are poking their noses in business of other people. The Chapter cut themselves off from Imperium, destroyed its homeworld and then mysteriously disappeared. Yep, the Ordo Hereticus will be very interested in them.

 

Organisation

Since then, the chapter has split into two factions or kindreds as they are known. The Dragonkin and Wyrmkin both seek to embody the aspects of their first leaders, Valthek and Gorgon, respectively. These kindreds have known to argue, and on rare occasion, has led to outright war.

Although there is a major schism within the chapter...

- Wyrmkin...

- And as nearly every fantasy story teaches us, the internal dispute and feud leads to the darkness. Really, this is literal equivalent of Chaos' Invitation at the doors of your Fortress Monastery.

 

not every chapter is completely perfect. Its the instruction of their famed chapter master to divide leadership, plus, the iron hands skirmish on a clan-company level to "weed out the weak". The names are better than DC faction #1 and #2, if there are any other suggestions for names i will be listening intently.

But you have spiritual schism here.

The Clan-Companies' skirmishes are result of disagreement on 'trivial' matters, not fundamental disagreement with the teachings of the other Clan-companies.

 

There is the typo in the "Wyrmkin". :)

 

1 the chapter has one doctrine, but two ways of interpreting it.

2 im not sure how to go about this, the alternative i to have two separate offices, or to have chaplains part of the kindreds, while something else takes their place, this could simply be a new rank of my invention (Councillor-master or something), or have another specialist rank take their place, such as techmarines or such...im not sure which would fit better. Thoughts?

The Chaplains are the guys, who interprets the doctrine, they are the spiritual leaders of Chapter.

Technically speaking, you don't need any mediator, look at the Blood Angels. The Chaplains and Sanguinary Priests are followers/preachers of 'slightly' different teachings, yet they don't slaughter themselves.

The problem I have with the current version is that you have Chapter divided into two rival groups instead of two interpretation of the same doctrine.

 

So you think it would fit better if the chaplains were present in both kindreds? The alternative could be to reduce the conflict to different ways of combat. I however think that the first idea is better in keeping with the original chapter ideas, maybe a little toned down from conflicts to difference of interpretation.

 

Would this be better?

thanks,

 

ME

 

PS Wyrm is an old English term for dragon-like creature :) Might change the names though....

[NightrawenII]

So you think it would fit better if the chaplains were present in both kindreds? The alternative could be to reduce the conflict to different ways of combat. I however think that the first idea is better in keeping with the original chapter ideas, maybe a little toned down from conflicts to difference of interpretation.

 

Would this be better?

thanks,

Yes, but I don't think it's wise to have two rival factions in the Chapter....

 

PS Wyrm is an old English term for dragon-like creature :) Might change the names though....

:P

Organisation

The Organisation of the Dragon Claws differs vastly from codex doctrine. After the events on Aetheum, Drak’sr, now entombed within his adamantium sarcophagus, appointed 2 predecessors: the Firebrand Valthek of the 3rd, and the cold-hearted Gorgon of the 1st. This, as Drak’sr explained, was to ensure no one being held complete control of the chapter.

Since then, the chapter has split into two factions or kindreds as they are known. The Dragonkin and Wrymkin both seek to embody the aspects of their first leaders, Valthek and Gorgon, respectively. These kindreds have known to argue, and on rare occasion, has led to outright war.

[Master Exorcist]

the two factions is originally to prevent one leader having complete control over the entire chapter, that has evolved from a difference in opinion of the two original leaders to a debate (rather than conflict?) amongst the chapter. Its also to add a bit of flavour to the chapter. Im not sure if i should scrap it altogether, as its quite a unique idea....

 

ahem: WYRM :P

 

EDIT: my apologies if thats how i spelt it in the draft :P (fixed now)

 

ME

 

as always, NightrawenII, your advice is appreciated....even if it is fueled by the tears of novice DIY-ers :)

[Master Exorcist]

To sum up a few questions for the liber...

 

regarding consequences of skirmishes:

maybe some sort of repenting company to be assigned to? or....OOH forcibly interred within a dreadnought maybe have some difference between venerable and normal dreads (venerable = by choice)?

 

thoughts?

 

is there any DIYers out there who would like their chapter to hold a grudge against mine, rather than me just picking a random chapter?

 

ME