Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 My 1500 list stands at this: Grand master Valdor with Pcycannon and master crafted Weapon, Retinue of 7 GK Terminators with Incinerator Grey Knight Squad, 8 Grey knights with justicar and 2 pcycannons Grey Knight Squad, 8 Grey knights with Justicar and 2 Incinerators GK Dreadnought with Plasma Cannon, Incinerator, Blessed and Extra armour Land Raider now I am thinking of expanding up to 1750, so what is the best option for that 250pts, I am thinking of either: Land raider crusader or Inquisitor with Vindicare assasin and 1 squad of stormtroopers with special weapons, how many Storm troopers depends on points or Another Grey knight squad, 5 Gks, Justicar and pcycannon, with 50pts of wargeer on GM and Justicars, perhaps Bionics on the GM and master crafted weapons on the justicars. or An extra squad of 4 GK Terminators with 2 pcycannon any and all advice welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 My suggestion would be the Land Raider Crusader. You need the extra AT it's multi-melta provides, and one Land Raider is generally too vulnerable; adding a second one greatly increases survivability. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2251649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Thane Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 A second LR of a design of your choice. 2 LR are fine, not spamming and effective/useful. I also like your current list. It's not hyper competitive, but workable yet fluffy in feel. A 2nd expansion should be an Inquisitor with retinue and/or Assassin to add something 'extra' that's still fluffy. A dirt-cheap Inquisitor + Eversor for instance would be quite good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2251743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I would suggest a unit of witchunter seraphim: A unit of 8 seraphim, with 2 hand flamers, a vet sister superior with an eviscerator (st6) and the book of luscius. Total of 230pts This gives you a very fast unit that can go and take out snipping unit in cover which will be the bane of your GK. A LRC, as suggested above would be great for your termies. However, I can't help but feel that your retinue is quite large, and your grey knights have a lot of shinny things. You could save yourself a load of point by taking vanilla GK units. If you want to add another unit of termies, I would reduce the retinue to 5 total (with incinerators) in a LR and another unit with psycannon as a mobile firebase. A good firebase would also be: an Inq (elite or HQ), with 3 warriors (1MM, 1 plasma cannon, 1 heavy bolter) 2 sages and 1 mystic. At roughly 180-200pts depending on gear, it offer some reasonably good tank popping abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2252054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbala Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 If building a Inq firebase, I always try to work in to mystics. There is always something DSing these days, and sometimes you need another unit to light it up instead of the Inq/retinue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2252452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomaflatchi Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Absolutely the second Land Raider. Saturation principle: one Land Raider is a moving target. It takes at least two to really get your points worth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2252502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 If building a Inq firebase, I always try to work in to mystics. There is always something DSing these days, and sometimes you need another unit to light it up instead of the Inq/retinue Mystics are pretty much a must-have for any DH firebase Inquisitor. As you said, for maximum usefulness it's a good idea to have another unit within range to take over shooting that's suited for different targets than the Inq's retinue. For example, have the Inquisitor's squad equipped with one or more multi-melta gun servitors to kill vehicles, then put a GK "Mini-purgation" squad or something else with lots of good dakka capability nearby to take over shooting at infantry targets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2252668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilgar Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Sry to be a bit of topic, but the discussion about the IQ firebase and letting some other unit shoot instead is cutting so close to my question. Can a IQ choose a Dreadnought or other to shoot instead of him, or is it just infantry/units that can do this? I may have played it wrong a few times, as I love to keep my Hellfire Dreadnought(s) close to the IQ squad, and have had it shoot instead sometimes (I think). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2253051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Can a IQ choose a Dreadnought or other to shoot instead of him, or is it just infantry/units that can do this? Re-reading the entry in the codex: The inq may instead nominate one unit with a model within 12" of him to immediately take these free shots at the ennemy unit that has entered play. Says nothing about infantry or what unit type the nominated unit should be Therefore, by RAW, the dreadnought, or a land raider can take the shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190026-best-choice-for-250pts/#findComment-2253055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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