mikemayday Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hello there, fellow marine enthusiasts! Allow me to introduce my first conversion project: a truescale CSM. http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/termipads.jpg This is just a test model so not everything has to be perfect but I'd like to know if there is a way of making nice, clean, even armour trims (CSM have them on the greaves and the breastplate). I've tried gluing tiny strips of plasticard but they don't bend well enough (especially in the area around the knees). I've also tried cutting strips of flattened GS - both fresh and partially cured - but the result are nowhere near as clean as on the GW CSM minis. http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/armourtrim.jpg Do you have any other ideas on how it's done? Do I just need years of practice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtySixNights Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 They are certainly nice attempts at true scalining, but in my honest opinon i think you should scale it down just a little, you're getting at almost dreadnought size there and it dwarves the head and arms. http://img40.yfrog.com/img40/4666/366i.jpg if you're going to use terminator legs i think you should just leave them at what size they are. For i trims i suggest using plasticard, don't cut strips and try to bend them, actually trace what you are trying to cut then bend it, or use large plasticard pipes. Thats all, good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2251624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 i think it looks great! a better true scale attempt than what i could muster! i think its fine height wise, as any other true scale using termy legs have the legs open (oddly :S ) yours is standing up straight and i think that counters the height issue. well done, keep it up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2251704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Great job! I think the torso may be a tad bit too wide, but besides that, it looks great proportion wise. There aren't a lot of CSM true-scalers, so one is always interesting to see. What Chaos warband are you doing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2251978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemayday Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 They are certainly nice attempts at true scalining, but in my honest opinon i think you should scale it down just a little, you're getting at almost dreadnought size there and it dwarves the head and arms.if you're going to use terminator legs i think you should just leave them at what size they are. Welp, I spent quite some time with theoretical preparation. The arms are perfect length- if he were to stand straight the fingertips would be about the middle of the thighs (I think the arms are even still a bit too long!). The head is exactly 1/8 of the full height. If we assume a typical guardsman to be 1,80m, the marine would be 2,5m tall - just as in the fluff. Here's a sideshot which shows the proportions: http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/side.jpg The only thing that's up for debate here is the wide chest, inspired by Kopinsky's Crimson Fist marine... I think it beefs him up nicely (the chest is 2mm wider). But I think I'm going to also try a 1mm wider variant. And thanks for the idea with the pipes! Cpt.Lysander: I've only painted a few squat CSM with a custom colour pattern, somewhat inspired by Blood Ravens. http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/14small.jpg http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/15small.png http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/16small.png The story behind it was going to be that a whole company of BR (2nd, judging by the golden trims?) gets corrupted and joins forces with the Thousand Sons (back with the family, heh). So the army would be a chaosified Blood Ravens (including all the units exclusive to the SM codex) + lots of Thousand Sons. Also, I'm extremely torn about this project... on the one hand, even my first truescale mini looks awesome to me, on the other hand- I have no idea what I should do with all the metal minis I've already amassed. Most of them would look stupid next to the truescale ones and I'm pretty sure I would want to either cut them to convert them OR sculpt my own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2252458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 For the trims, buy thinnner plasticard, I have no problems getting 0,5mm or 0,3 mm plasticard strips to bend and stick. cheers, Beork Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2252463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Loring Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I don't really have a problem with the size of him at all. I think the chest does beef him up a bit, more like what we see in pictures. I do think his arm actually looks a little short from the side-view, something that isn't really noticeable from the front view. That could easily be adjusted by the placing of the arm on the torso (but you disagree with me so by all means ignore this opinion - it looks great either way). Very good and extremely promising if it's just a test model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2252468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 The arms look too short. I think the chest is fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2252474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemayday Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 Righto then, I'm gonna try to lengthen the arms. This will be necessary for the bolter dudes anyway :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2253037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Marshal Sigfeird Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Is it me or to i see my truescale Blood angel being used there ;). I think this a great attempt as im true scaling atm i might bare this in mind :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2253083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemayday Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'm gonna need more practice... http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/upload/trims.jpg When doing the final version, I intend to do both legs separately, that should help me get a clean effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2253733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 They look great, good job!! The arms do need lengthening tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2255517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I like the CSM conversion. Nice work on the torso and the details. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190028-truescale-csm/#findComment-2256060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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