Multiple penetrating hits

[heed the wisdom]

hey guys I have a quick question and it may be answered in the brb but i couldnt find anything on it...

 

so heres the question ...

 

if I get 3 penetrating hits on and tank and 2 glancing hits and i blow the tank up on the first glance i roll .... get a 6 and its a meltagun for how purposes... meaning its wreaked not exploded

 

do I still have to roll the penetrating hits to see if I explode it ... or can i keep the wreaked result...

 

In game terms i play salamanders and sternguard with combi meltas and regularly first turn DP assault and pop transports ... and I find most of the time i like the wreaked result better but almost always end up with 3 - 5 pens ( with HeStan )

 

if anyone could referance a page in the brb so I can have clarity ... thanks ahead of time

[JamesI]

Since they all should be rolled simultaneously, you really need to roll them all.

[igotsmeakabob!!]

You roll them all. If you get no explosions, it's wrecked. If you get three wrecks and one explosion, it explodes.

[Leonaides]

Yep - roll everything unless/until you get a 6 result (as thats the 'worst' possible result).

[Ashe Darke]

Why you'd roll the glances before the penetrating hits is beyond me.

[Agrab]

as a side point, I assume that if you get multiple explosions you only role the distance dice once, or do you roll them all and use the largest?

[JamesI]

I'd just roll it once.

[Commander Sasha]

Use coloured dice:

Red for penetrating hits, black for glancing, throw them all at once, turn the black dice over to 2 less. WYSIWYG!

 

All shots are supposed to be simultaneous, so all have effect, the worst result being the dominant one.

This is also why you can't melta a transport, the enemy jump out, but you can't then flame/bolt them, even though you can assault them that turn.

BRB p18, "Fast rolling"; p67, "Note:"

[Ashe Darke]

The same unit can't assault them. You shot at the transport which is a different unit from people inside. So you can shoot the tank and if you don't kill it you can charge it, but if you open it up then the people inside are a different unit from the unit you shot at, therefore you can't charge them with that unit. This, as well as the fact all shots are fired simultaneously, is why you can't shoot the occupants if they exit due to that unit's firing.

[Frosty the Pyro]

Pg 67, right above the "dedicated transports" box, there is a note. If you shoot at a transport and destroy it, the unit that shot at the transport may assault the dissembarked passengers.

[Commander Sasha]

The same unit can't assault them. You shot at the transport which is a different unit from people inside. So you can shoot the tank and if you don't kill it you can charge it, but if you open it up then the people inside are a different unit from the unit you shot at, therefore you can't charge them with that unit. This, as well as the fact all shots are fired simultaneously, is why you can't shoot the occupants if they exit due to that unit's firing.

Beg to Differ:

BRBp67, under "Destroyed - Explodes!"

"Note...if a transport is destroyed(either result) by a ranged attack, the unit that shot it may assault the now disembarked passengers..."

 

Edit...Frosty beat me to it!

[Ashe Darke]

Well shiver me timbers! Seems to go against the way the rules work but fair enough. I stand corrected.

[rat of vengence]

It was that way in 4th, but it has changed :lol:

 

RoV

[Roachboy]

I've always played it as roll all damage rolls, and if it explodes, ignore all other results i.e one explosion.

 

Obviously if you don't destroy it works a bit differently...