Legatus Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How come BA are supposedly all gonna get Furious Charge when the Space Wolves dont...? You have not been playing 40K for long, have you? :D arrrgh they better not make BA too amazing therefore making the wolves redundant... Like how Space Wolves made Codex Chapters*? Oh, Snap! :P *Other than armies led by a Special Character or relying heavily on Storm/Hammer Terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I, for one, welcome the C:BA and hope that our brothers in the struggle against the Xenos, Heretics, Mutants and Traitors will get a really awesome codex which will truly set them apart from other marines. We have our specialties and they'll have theirs as is only right. They can have FC and spiffy assault troops. I really don't mind. If I did, I'd switch :D I'm looking forwards to bandwagoners heading to the BA forums (Who knows, maybe they're already busy deserting tyranid forums in favour of BA). I think we should all rejoice that GW seems to be releasing lots of new goodies and, hopefully, bringing all armies up to 5th edition at a certain speed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 WS to 1? Are you lads feeling all right? That would make hitting a guardsman a struggle... *chuckles into my beard* I say bring it on! The Blood Angels are more combat oriented than us, which is perhaps a good thing. (So why did I pick the Wolves, considering my love of combat?) Remember thatthe way we fight gives us an advantage pretty much all of the time. First off we have uber-grit, allowing us to fight just as well in any circumstance. Then we have counter-attack, just in case things don't go to plan. So against the Blood Angels you'll have to be as cunning as a wolf and choose the assaults, with YOU charging, furious charge doesn't work then. :D The rumour I'm more upset about (which is still unfounded) is an assault cannon Land Raider, my armoured company would kill to posess a pair of them. Then again I could always start a new army to begin working on my chapter made of other chapters...but that would make me a bandwagoner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think that even a full Blood Angels force will not be as assaultie as a Black templar force. But then again they can put a Larger number in a single squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Not this all assault cannon land raider again, We where supposed to get it to remember ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Not this all assault cannon land raider again, We where supposed to get it to remember ;) I know, hence why I said unfounded but the rumour popped up and with the Baal I could see it as a BA thing, of course I could just make my own... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. :tu: And we'll have gained some brothers whose sagas will be long and inspiring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. :tu: And we'll have gained some brothers whose sagas will be long and inspiring. Agreed, it'll help clear out the (chasing the newest, greatest, best thing) chaff and leave us stronger and wiser. Should be seeing their unwanted minis on ebay anytime soon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Blood Giver Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. :tu: Am already seeing the switch... nids here,nids there, nids bloody well everywhere in my local group at the moment.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2255946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. ;) Am already seeing the switch... nids here,nids there, nids bloody well everywhere in my local group at the moment.. *shakes head* tsk tsk, these young'ins, makes me sad for the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagneticFreak Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Frankly, I am not convinced the Blood Angels will get Furious charge as a global rule. My statement is based on these samples of the rumours Exalted: 4/4/4(5)/4/1/5/1+1/10/3+, jump troops, hit & run, furious charge, no red fury/combat tactics, power armor, stormbolter, power weapon, bolt pistol, no options, no transports. Erasmus: Furious charge, digital weapons (rending), master crafted combi melta: 18" S:8 AP:1 Assault 1, melta, reroll to hit, 4+ ward save, can chose one set of special rules... Now, unless I am mistaken, I think only a subset of the army list will have Furious Charge, otherwise the rule would not be specified in these entires and not the others. Of course, I perhaps place to much credit on these statements, but somehow I feel Furious Charge on marines is not a good idea, even on design purposes. Furious charge is much better than counter attack, as it gives I 5 to chargers. These chargers are not orks or eldar specialists, but marines, and in most cases will be assault marines. I think a lot of people will agree than Marines as a whole are a hard pill to swallow for a lot of armies, and a countermeasure to this has often been high initiave. I just dont see Games Workshop removing assault advantages of so many marine opponents just for the sake of the fluff. My 2 cents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. :) Am already seeing the switch... nids here,nids there, nids bloody well everywhere in my local group at the moment.. I'm now planning on using my space wolf minatures but using the tyranid codex to represent thier rules as I find them more fluffy for my 13th company background :) ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well right now, all the Space Wolves band wagoneers are running to the Nid forum, and the remainder will run off to be a Blood Angel forum, so I'm quite looking forward to the new BA codex. :) Am already seeing the switch... nids here,nids there, nids bloody well everywhere in my local group at the moment.. I'm now planning on using my space wolf minatures but using the tyranid codex to represent thier rules as I find them more fluffy for my 13th company background :) ~O *throws a bloodclaw at Oldenhaller* Bad, bad, bad idea. *sighs* Seriously though, the only thing Ive heard about the BA that throws me is the Tantalus, and Im just going with the "the rumors are always worse than reality" bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 *sidesteps flung bloodclaw while supping on a flagon of cheese* We saw it for ours so I'm thinking it won't be long until we see it for the angels (makes much more sense for my bezerkers to have furious charge and black rage etc). What's the worse that can happen...*facepalms* ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dont you just love the flavor of the day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 i just hope that the tantalus lander is in the battle missions book as well as in the BA codex so all of us can enjoy marine air cav! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think the Space Wolves did fine getting Counter Attack. Makes sense to me in the "pack" feeling, fight together and all. Blood Angels are a step away from being a bezerker. Space Wolves are far from that and while feral, are not stupid. One thing to consider with Blood Angels is to get FC, you have to charge. For Space Wolves to get thier perk if charged. It is almost impossible to negate CA. Assult me, I can get a bonus, let me assult you I get a bonus anyway...win win if you ask me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bareserker Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I am pleased for the B.A's, they got really screwed with that awful W.D. dex. And I am always thrilled to see new loyalist marines of any chapter .....anything that brings new models,.....YYYYYIIIPPPPEEEEE!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrothgar Beastslayer Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I for one shall never abandon my newly found pack members for some new and shiny army, "messily devours leg of Elk" I just hope all the untrue wolves ARE weeded out from this Hall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Ba have and should always have retained furious charge. They had it in 3rd. Ba have always been my second army after the wolves, I liked their CC prowess and the fact they could take tactical squads with las/plas Well I dare anybody to call me a Bandwagoner, heres my Ba army ready for the codex, It was done for 3rd editioin when the Razor back had the las/plas turret, something it lost in 4th but luckily something that came back in 5th http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/vittorio_13/balib.jpg http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/vittorio_13/batac.jpg http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/vittorio_13/ba.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Frankly, I am not convinced the Blood Angels will get Furious charge as a global rule. My statement is based on these samples of the rumours Exalted: 4/4/4(5)/4/1/5/1+1/10/3+, jump troops, hit & run, furious charge, no red fury/combat tactics, power armor, stormbolter, power weapon, bolt pistol, no options, no transports. Erasmus: Furious charge, digital weapons (rending), master crafted combi melta: 18" S:8 AP:1 Assault 1, melta, reroll to hit, 4+ ward save, can chose one set of special rules... Now, unless I am mistaken, I think only a subset of the army list will have Furious Charge, otherwise the rule would not be specified in these entires and not the others. Space Wolves have Counter-Attack on thier individual unit entries. Still imagine the Flesh Tearers Jump Army. (60 Assault marines as troops, HQ character with a honor guard like unit, all with Furious Charge. And as many MM Land Speeders as you can afford) You cant tell me that wouldnt look and feel awesome, yea battle cannons will ruin your day, but oh well, 60 assault Marines with FC. But time will tell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Exalted will be one of the more pricier units in the book. Those stats equate to a 40+ point model for a 1W T4 3+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 blood angels are angry all the time, they have the rage to deal with . wolves are angry when they get backed into a corner , counter assault makes sense not furious charge. my two cents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bareserker Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Yo BEEF ! Thats a great little army you have painted up, with some great conversions as well ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190306-arrrgghh/page/2/#findComment-2256659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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