craigory45 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I am just getting started with 40k but have played LoTR for about two years. So battlegame noob I am not. But 40k noob I am. I was just wondering...are Space Wolves considered a noob army? I always thought ultra marines and orks were the noob armies? I don't want people to think I'm jumping on the bandwagon. I've thought long and hard and I'm a Space Wolf. one extra quick question: what does "cheesey" mean as well as all those other deragotory terms I heard thrown around at GW when I was painting my Hobbits? Glad to be a Space Wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 MEQ is generally considered a "noob" army. Part of the challenge of Marines is that even though we do everything very well-rounded, we're not masters at anything. And our units are expensive.. so we have to use them well. Good point management is what you need to write a successful Marine list. Although personally, I do see Wolves as better Marines. Better USRs, more affordable units, better at CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryah Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'll take tis one. Being a Noob to the Space Puppies myself. But The Space MArines are broken down into many different chapters. Each unique to their own. Space Wolves are one of the oldest and most honored chapters led by the famous Leman Russ. You may have heard that term before in the name of a certain Imperial Gaurd Tank. As for the Wolves, they are one of the most exciting fluff story wise armies out there and one of the reasons that drew me back into 40k after a year long hietis. As for cheesy? Depends on what it was used as. I consider cheese to be like an example, all MECH army for Tau. Where all you have are super heavy support and guns that rip you apart. OR better yet. Tyrinid Zilla lists. Before the new codex and 5th edition. How and what were they classifying cheesy twards you? Your army? Paint scheme?? Personally. Only cheese I use is the one you can consume.....LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Wolves can be a hard army to master, you have the save of a normal marine army but the models cost more so you have fewer of them, I always saw Nids as a noob army, just get tons of stealers and your amost bound to win, but that must have changed with the new dex, I still think there the easiest army to win with An army that lets you make the most mistakes is Ultra and Orks, Ultra are just sollit and orks, got troops a pleny. so whats a few wasted in a wrong place. But if you feel like an wolve, be a wolve and dont mind the bandwagon remarks, in 10 years they'll all forgotten you got in after the new dex :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpike Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 ... when I was painting my Hobbits?... This is where your problems start ;) But seriously : by a "n00b army" I presume you mean suitable for a new player (Like yourself). UltraMarines, being represented in the BRB and Codex: Space Marines, are designed to introduce players to the game. Orks appear in the starter-set Assault on BlackReach, and can be played in a very simplistic manner quite effectively. This does not mean they can only be played that way, and both Marines and Orks can benefit from top-notch tactics and choices. As to Space Wolfs, being marines with a few bells'n'whistles (albeit silent whistles! :o ), are a little more to get to grips with, but that kinda applies to all Marines, who are like Ultra's, but a bit different. Main thing is, dont' let anyone tell you what army to play. Choose one you like, accept you'll not win every game while you learn it, and end up with a mighty Chapter that you know and love! :( Maybe you chose a "cheesy" army, maybe you picked a lame duck (or lame wolf!). Who cares? have fun! A good general, enjoying a good fight beats a beardy git playing MustWin every time! :( Cheesy, beardy, WAAC, etc: Using rules/units/models to win games, with no (or little) thought to the flavour or story, possibly bending the rules, and pushing the limits of acceptable. Some people do not accept that this state exists. Hope this helps. Welcome to B&C. Enjoy your stay :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpup Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 No such thing as a "Noob Army"! You said it yourself. You're a Space Wolf! Stand tall Blood Claw! Cheesey is what the losers call anyone who plants the sole of an armored boot on thier weak necks. There is no such thing as "Cheesey." Just my humble Fenrisian opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKAwolf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 all space marines are sometimes considered noob armies. low model counts are faster to paint and marine armour can be done in 3 colors. also the idea of 'super-human-genetically-modified-uber-soldiers' attracts a lot of new (and there-for less skilled) players. its all just perception. edit: cheesy=beardy=OP (over powered)=broken, ect Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 space marines are more adaptable. but i think wolves is more forgiving to mistakes. not to mention the fact that their comunity is very active and helpful to new players, that in my book makes it the noob army to take. also the wolves have lots of cool heroes and that makes it highly atractive to noob. wolves is one of the armies i will eventually get to, i made ultras , chaos , ravenguard , blood angels sofar. still need to make dark angels, guard and wolves. what keeps me away from making wolves , the color. noobs look for , power , flash , color , and cost really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigory45 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 thanks everyone. I am proud to be a Space Wolf! For me I just want to be a great player and have fun. I would like to play tournaments eventually. But right now I am content with collecting my army, paining, and increasing my skills and soakin up all the information I can. I am glad I found a home here. Many more questions to come from me so bear with me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bareserker Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Wolves,..................? Simply the best ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I do not think that we are a n00b army. A noob army is when what you need to to is just plain looking you in the face but I do not think that is the case with the SW. We have very few units so you need to plan what you want to do when you are writing your list. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Go with your heart young wolf. My first and my only army has been the Sons of Russ. And the allure and fascination with the army more than made up for my lack of knowledge. Find a good friend to kick your a$$ around the table until you get mad enough to utterly consume you codex and begin to own him :P Least, that worked for me. When I met him, he kicked me around with demons...once I started owning him there, he switched to orks...then I started owning him there...now he's on Chaos Marines...I think he'll be switching armies again soon, lol Brother Jonny Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 You know its funny, I've played many armies, but I inevitably always go back to the wolves.....:thanks: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Wolf Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think that wolves are even more forgiving than normal marines to play with simply because of grey hunters, more attacks and you get a choice in charge-or-be-charged with almost no difference! e.g. Khorne Berserkers = charge them to take away furious charge, Most Eldar = take the extra turn of rapid firing and let them charge you. So I think that wolves are probably 1 of the better armies to learn with because even more so than normal marines, they allow mistakes. Of course once you get a handle on the game and start to develop from a blood claw to say grey hunter or, dare i say it, long fang that all changes... steamroll the competition! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2256789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Yep, definately. And why? because more effort goes into to making marine codex's in general. Other 'noob' armies include Necrons, Chaos Spacemarines, and Orks (if you play a simple Ork army). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 indeed i do not consider us to be a noob army leave that for the ultra marines and necrons. the thing that made me choose space wolves was the sheer amount of conversion possibilities and the fact that the army suites my personality almost perfectly. ahhhh i remember all those years ago picking up an old box of blood claws and asking the staffer in my local GW "what are these guys?" and he bellowed a reply "THEY ARE THE SONS OF RUSS, ONE OF THE MIGHTYEST ARMIES OF THE IMPERIUM!" i was hooked ever since, eeeeee you cant beat a good bit of reminiscing ALES ALL ROUND! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 and he bellowed a reply"THEY ARE THE SONS OF RUSS, ONE OF THE MIGHTYEST ARMIES OF THE IMPERIUM!" i was hooked ever since, eeeeee you cant beat a good bit of reminiscing ALES ALL ROUND! Haha! Did he have a beard and a wolf pelt over his shoulders by any chance? :D [Grabs some ale] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Wolf pelt no, beard yes (a very big bushy beard) *downs tankard of ale* *belches loudly* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 HAHAHA! LOL sounds like when I worked for GW :D Thems were the good old days! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I am just getting started with 40k but have played LoTR for about two years.So battlegame noob I am not. But 40k noob I am. I was just wondering...are Space Wolves considered a noob army? I always thought ultra marines and orks were the noob armies? I don't want people to think I'm jumping on the bandwagon. I've thought long and hard and I'm a Space Wolf. one extra quick question: what does "cheesey" mean as well as all those other deragotory terms I heard thrown around at GW when I was painting my Hobbits? Glad to be a Space Wolf. Every army is a Noob army, for in every army you Will find Noobz. Basic Marines and Orks are just very accessable because of assault on black reach- though we can use all the models from that kit ourselves *I have a converted dread and ML guy from the set sitting not 10 feet away right now in fact*. I Started this game with Eldar- of all the complicated, different veined rules sets out there. So go with what you like, youve played wargames before, and if your IQ is above 60 youll figure it out. Seriously, dont worry about what people say- with the new nid codex, if you were a bandwagoner youd be there... or quietly preparing blood angels. Welcome to the Fang. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 MEQ is generally considered a "noob" army. By which you mean good, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 MEQ is generally considered a "noob" army. By which you mean good, right? Good is subjective. But BS4, WS4, T4 and 3+ is rather "good". Or above average at least. But again.. that's subjective.. because IG and their little T3 men beats us left and right with their Demos, Vets, Valks/Vendettas, and X amount of Tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 But again.. that's subjective.. because IG and their little T3 men beats us left and right with their Demos, Vets, Valks/Vendettas, and X amount of Tanks. If your Marines are in a tank they can't be touched by the enemy until the tank is wrecked first. For the price of 2 Marines, that is good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpup Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 But again.. that's subjective.. because IG and their little T3 men beats us left and right with their Demos, Vets, Valks/Vendettas, and X amount of Tanks. If your Marines are in a tank they can't be touched by the enemy until the tank is wrecked first. For the price of 2 Marines, that is good. They're still scary when those 3 vendettas pop 3 of your vehicles and then follow up on the infantry inside with those nasty Executioners. (Ouch) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 my dear battle brothers, i'm shocked deeply by your answers! this whelp got a mere 23 replies but not even 1 sip of ale! how can this be! *let's the whelp take a little sip op his personal ale stein* as you'll see we've got a great community ready to help the new whelps;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190375-are-space-wolves-a-noob-army/#findComment-2257940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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