Are Space Wolves a noob army?

[Bran Scalphunter]

*watches the whelp explode from the ale's concentrated manliness*

 

He wasn't a Wolf yet, so we didn't let him have any. Once's he initiated/mopped up off of the floor, he can try to handle it. Just keep him away from my Fangtwister^TM!

 

*chugs keg of Fangtwister^TM, then belches thunderously*

 

Whew, that one had a little kick. :)

[craigory45]

thanks Hendrick

 

I was quite parched.

[hendrik]

ha bran offcourse i'll not have him sip that one, that's the one we filled with water and offered to lord rags, don't you remember? if us greybeards wouldn't look after all those young whelps they did all be drinking water by now!

[archonbrujah]

Elite armies, like any Marine army, are only noob armies if you make them so. Because of the lack of bodies on the ground, they're far less forgiving them a horde army. Also, specialists in elite army must be surgically used. If you toss them about willy nilly, they die just as quickly (mostly) as line troops.

 

SW are blessed in that GH's are awesome troops, who can be reasonably well kitted out to handle anything. But they still need to used intelligently, as a frontal assault will often leave you dead and dying as you try to close.

 

I don't have any of these issues when I play my Orks. I have a friend who I have beaten all of once in 5+ years of gaming against him who usually plays orks. Trying to thin out the ranks of a horde army, with heavy walker support puts massive strains on any elite army.

 

BTW, the one time I beat him was using my Orks vs. his MoTF vindicator list.

 

Archonbrujah

[nurglespuss]

To be honest, GH are excellent at a frontal assault. They pretty much take a decent pounding from a reasonable range of weaponry, and respond well to the charge.

 

Admittedly, surgical use will give you a 'better' victory, but, its pretty much point and release at the moment.

[archonbrujah]

To be honest, GH are excellent at a frontal assault. They pretty much take a decent pounding from a reasonable range of weaponry, and respond well to the charge.

 

Admittedly, surgical use will give you a 'better' victory, but, its pretty much point and release at the moment.

 

hmm, not so sure that frontal charges against a vindicator list will go so well. Come the think of it, 30 man Ork squad is gonna eat your GH if you meet them in the middle.

 

Going to disagree with you (although I do agree that GH's are one of the better choices to try this).

 

Archonbrujah

[Grey Mage]

Always let the Orks come to you, Always.

 

Still, with two turns of shooting a 10 man GH squad without a Pack Leader will almost allways *like 98.5%* come out on top. Throw in the pack leader and you have to be cursed to lose.

 

SWs are the Orks natural predator.

[nurglespuss]

Yep, spot on.

 

Thats pretty much what I was going for :)

[Mithril hound]

Hmm ive been very jealous of those 40pt 2 wound templar termis, something we dont have but i with we did.

[Grey Mage]

Hmm ive been very jealous of those 40pt 2 wound templar termis, something we dont have but i with we did.

Someones been lying to you- templars termies only get one wound like everyone else.

[Mithril hound]

I own the dex, they got 2.

[Ulriks Minion]

I say we have a drink to russ (and get smashed) then we will think about what you want to do

[Sarapham]

I own the dex, they got 2.

 

 

As do I, and just 1 wound it is.. as it should be.

[Grey Mage]

I own the dex, they got 2.

As do I, and neither the command squad, the assault squad, or the regular squad of sword brethren terminators have 2 wounds. Nor do PA Sword Brethren for that matter.

 

They do have 2 attacks... but thats the only 2 in their profile.

 

Techmarines, basic chaplains and castellans, and the emperors champion have two wounds... thats it.

 

I own the dex, they got 2.

 

 

As do I, and just 1 wound it is.. as it should be.

Agreed.

[archonbrujah]

Always let the Orks come to you, Always.

 

Still, with two turns of shooting a 10 man GH squad without a Pack Leader will almost allways *like 98.5%* come out on top. Throw in the pack leader and you have to be cursed to lose.

 

SWs are the Orks natural predator.

 

yep, never close with them if you can help it. I guess I don't see frontal assault as the same thing as sitting in cover and gunning they down as they close.

 

funny you should mention the cursed to lose, noone mentioned my horrid dice rolling.....

 

Archonbrujah

[Raulmichile]

Always let the Orks come to you, Always.

 

SWs are the Orks natural predator.

 

 

Unless, the Ork player has 3 units of shootas and 2 or 3 of lootas shooting at you as it there is no tomorrow while advancing at you at the same time. Suddenly it is not so easy to simply let them run at you and shoot them. Sometimes it is better to charge at the orks with all you have, at the same time.

 

Anyway, SWs do are Orks natural predator.

[Grey Mage]

Always let the Orks come to you, Always.

 

SWs are the Orks natural predator.

 

 

Unless, the Ork player has 3 units of shootas and 2 or 3 of lootas shooting at you as it there is no tomorrow while advancing at you at the same time. Suddenly it is not so easy to simply let them run at you and shoot them. Sometimes it is better to charge at the orks with all you have, at the same time.

 

Anyway, SWs do are Orks natural predator.

Whirlwinds ^_^.

 

But seriously, shoots are 18" Wich means youll get an extra turn of shooting off, and when he comes up to hit you you rapid fire on him and take the charge, or assault if hes still to numerous. While I wont say its never a good idea to charge orks, they should never pump out more quality firepower than a SW player.