Today, Ragnar killed....

[Skirax]

20 Tactical Marines

 

5 Scouts

 

One Rhino

 

3 Bikers.

 

Thanks to Warrior Born, and three consecutive turns of combat, I managed to rack up an amazing 19 attacks with him :D

 

So, anyone else had any slaughters? :P

 

Personally, I am always taking Ragnar when there is a gunline.

[Taeken]

Very nice! Playing tomorrow, if he does anything good I shall post it as well. Hope I do even half that.

[MagneticFreak]

Sorry, but how is this even possible?

 

I know the mechanics of SoWB, but how can you increase up to 19? Is there any morale tests taken before that? I mean, in the previous turn your Ragnar killed, what, 15 marines, and the unit did not even flee with a -15 modifier?

 

I just dont see how it happens in real life, sorry :yes:

[Taeken]

Multiple units in my CC situation maybe?

[The Nephilim]

I find that unlikely also. Marines would have broke and ran.

[hendrik]

it must havee happened, why else would skyrax be bragging about it;)

i can think of plenty enough reasons how he could get that many attacks( for example the opponent forgetting he could withdraw out of the combat;)

[HERO]

Ragnar is such hit or miss for me. Anything with a Fist can end his killing streak :)

[Skirax]

Well, basically, I ran him in a Crusader and with 14 Blood Claws w/ a Power Weapon, a Wolf Guard w/ Wolf Claws, and one the first turn they barrelled into the bikes, IB got me a +3 for each guy, so Ragnar slaughtered them. Then the next turn, with 2 losses from bolter fire, I charged a unit of Tactical Marines, Furiously Charged, and Ragnar with his now minimum 7 attacks, got another +3 on IB ;) and with his amazing accuracy, killed all ten. I, personally, was shocked. I wondered how one guy could be so crazy. Next turn, into the scouts, with minimum 17 attacks, I only killed one. That, I thought, was fair, since I’d just slaughtered a tactical squad, but my opponent, being a sore winner, began cries of exaltation. That went when the Wolf Guard tutted at Ragnar then made mince meat of the Scouts. However, next turn, back into another Tactical Squad, again, only killed one. This shocked me, but then I later realised that I forgot about the Wolftooth Necklace, and thought I had to hit on 4 because Sicarius was in the squad. Anyhoo, what Ragnar didn’t kill, the remaining 7 BCs and the WG slaughtered, then Ragnar runs off in a huff and tears open a Rhino in his rage. As for the BCs, well, they were on the receiving end of a Vindi.

[Madsakre]

Ragnar is such hit or miss for me. Anything with a Fist can end his killing streak :(

 

Like every other character without eternal warrior or toughness 5.

Luckily, ragnar still has a 4+ inv save ;)

[Skirax]

The only SC or Unit in our codex with EW is Logan or a Lone Wolf.

[HERO]

Ragnar is such hit or miss for me. Anything with a Fist can end his killing streak :(

 

Like every other character without eternal warrior or toughness 5.

Luckily, ragnar still has a 4+ inv save :)

 

Which has failed me every game I've used him thus far.

 

Splat goes the Wolf Lord.

 

Well, basically, I ran him in a Crusader and with 14 Blood Claws w/ a Power Weapon, a Wolf Guard w/ Wolf Claws, and one the first turn they barrelled into the bikes, IB got me a +3 for each guy, so Ragnar slaughtered them. Then the next turn, with 2 losses from bolter fire, I charged a unit of Tactical Marines, Furiously Charged, and Ragnar with his now minimum 7 attacks, got another +3 on IB :rolleyes: and with his amazing accuracy, killed all ten. I, personally, was shocked. I wondered how one guy could be so crazy. Next turn, into the scouts, with minimum 17 attacks, I only killed one. That, I thought, was fair, since I’d just slaughtered a tactical squad, but my opponent, being a sore winner, began cries of exaltation. That went when the Wolf Guard tutted at Ragnar then made mince meat of the Scouts. However, next turn, back into another Tactical Squad, again, only killed one. This shocked me, but then I later realised that I forgot about the Wolftooth Necklace, and thought I had to hit on 4 because Sicarius was in the squad. Anyhoo, what Ragnar didn’t kill, the remaining 7 BCs and the WG slaughtered, then Ragnar runs off in a huff and tears open a Rhino in his rage. As for the BCs, well, they were on the receiving end of a Vindi.

 

So you're racking up and counting his +attacks for Warrior Born even when there's a break in combat? ... isn't that .. wrong?

[The Nephilim]

Well, basically, I ran him in a Crusader and with 14 Blood Claws w/ a Power Weapon, a Wolf Guard w/ Wolf Claws, and one the first turn they barrelled into the bikes, IB got me a +3 for each guy, so Ragnar slaughtered them. Then the next turn, with 2 losses from bolter fire, I charged a unit of Tactical Marines, Furiously Charged, and Ragnar with his now minimum 7 attacks, got another +3 on IB ;) and with his amazing accuracy, killed all ten. I, personally, was shocked. I wondered how one guy could be so crazy. Next turn, into the scouts, with minimum 17 attacks, I only killed one. That, I thought, was fair, since I’d just slaughtered a tactical squad, but my opponent, being a sore winner, began cries of exaltation. That went when the Wolf Guard tutted at Ragnar then made mince meat of the Scouts. However, next turn, back into another Tactical Squad, again, only killed one. This shocked me, but then I later realised that I forgot about the Wolftooth Necklace, and thought I had to hit on 4 because Sicarius was in the squad. Anyhoo, what Ragnar didn’t kill, the remaining 7 BCs and the WG slaughtered, then Ragnar runs off in a huff and tears open a Rhino in his rage. As for the BCs, well, they were on the receiving end of a Vindi.

 

So you're racking up and counting his +attacks for Warrior Born even when there's a break in combat? ... isn't that .. wrong?

Yes.

[Skirax]

No.

 

It's consecutive turns, you add on the killed models every last turn.

[commander alexander]

As in;

Turn one- You assault a tactical squad, ragnar kills 4 and the squad he's with kills the rest.

Turn two- You finished the squad in previous turn, and theres another one in range, you move, shoot, and assault it with +4 attacks from the last turn.

[stinkenheim]

i tink you may have msiread or misunderstood the rules dude.

 

you say ragnar killed the bikers and got X amount of attacks. then the squad lost 2 models from incoming fire, unless your opponent charged you you wouldnt still have the additional X attacks when you next charge.

 

where it says previous turn, it refers to player turn. basically to rack up large numbers you cant go an assault phase without fighting.

 

Your turn, you charge and kill 4 people. Opponents turn, he charges, raganr has his base number of attacks, + 4 from SOTWB, + 1 for 2 close combat weapons, +1 for counter attack (assuming he passed). lets say you fluff your attacks and kill 2. in your turn you charge and ragnar has his base no. of attacks, +2 from SOTWB, +1 for 2 cc weapons, +D3 for insane bravado.

 

Now if your opponent hadn't charged you, when ragnar next assaults someone he has his base no. attacks, +0 from SOTWB as he hadnt killed anyone in the previous round, +1 for 2 cc weapons, +D3 from IB... does that make sense?

[Death Wolf]

You know SotWB never mentions turns... Stinkenheim is right.

 

(PG 64, C:SW)

"SAGA OF THE WARRIOR BORN:

The character is not truly alive unless plunging forward into battle, his blade dripping red with the blood of his enemies as his rage grows ever greater.

During the assault phase, the character gets a bonus to his attacks equal to the number of models he killed in the previous assault phase."

[Tannen]

You know SotWB never mentions turns... Stinkenheim is right.

 

(PG 64, C:SW)

"SAGA OF THE WARRIOR BORN:

The character is not truly alive unless plunging forward into battle, his blade dripping red with the blood of his enemies as his rage grows ever greater.

During the assault phase, the character gets a bonus to his attacks equal to the number of models he killed in the previous assault phase."

 

Sounds about right to me too. that bonus can only aply the unit he is locked in combat with. If the combat ends the bonus attacks resets.

 

Also i dont think attacks stack even if the same combat would go on for lets say 3 turns

round 1: he gets his (5?) regular attacks he kills 4 (not counting charging or D3 charge thing)

round 2: he gets his 5+4 Softwb and flunks kills 2

round 3: he gets his 5+2 Sotwb and kills all in the unit

*resets*

 

thats how i read the rule tho i might be wrong :D

[commander alexander]

unless another enemy unit joined the same combat. And the way I just read that rule, especially with that "plunging forward" bit, is that he gets the bonus, even if he broke or finished the combat, and was able to assault the next turn.

[Skirax]

Well, that's how the club interprets it. Until it's FAQed, we can't say which one of us is right. Although, I'm inclined to believe you over myself <_<

[stinkenheim]

as longas the character stays in combat he will keep getting the bonuses for whatever models he killed in the previous assault phase. it doesnt matter if its against a different unit or not, its just kills. if he goes an assault phase without killing anything then the bonuses reset and he has to start again.

 

its only models he killed that count too, models killed by sweeping advance aren't counted, nor are casualties caused by his unit.

 

as i say, if you can keep him in combat you can rack up truly horrific numbers of bonus attacks, but chances are your opponent will not charge him if hes getting large numbers of bonuses.

[commander alexander]

I believe what stink is saying is what I am trying to say, I think ;)

[Max_Dammit]

Just so most know, every turn has 2 charges, 1 from you and on for the opponent, so if you kill a squat, and you dont get charged in the opponents turn, the counting stops.