7-man drop pod squad

[Sarapham]

So I´m putting together a squad of 7 WG in a Drop pod for fun use, dont care if the idea itself is bad but I would like to know what your thoughts on how you would equip this squad both powerfully yet cost efficiently.

 

I´m thinking 3 TDA and 4 PA that matches with the 3 WG I have as pack leaders so I dont have to use another elite and fits in the drop pod.

 

2 TDA with Combi-M and W-claws.

 

1 TDA with Cyclone, Stormbolter and either W-claw or Chainfist (magnitized so have the option).

 

Atleast 1 PA with Stormbolter and Stormshield, I´m thinking that perhaps 2 would be good too but not sure.

 

Which leaves me thinking about 2-3 (depending on how many SS) with Stormbolter and Powerweapon/Frostblade. PW for cost effectiveness or FB for the power, not wanting claws on them for aesthetic reasons.

 

The reasoning with SB over Boltpistols is that I would probably like to drop them midfield where they might not get into the thick of it for maybe 1 or 2 turns and instead being a great big pain which is why I want some ability to shoot at range, even if it means sacrificing a few attacks.

 

What do you guys think?

[Wolf Guard Dan]

I like the Idea of mixed Wolf Guard Units because then you can max out the two heavy weapons for wolf guard TDA.

 

That WG in pa with SS and SB is a good idea. Cheaper to protect your TDA guys from ap2 shots.

[Sarapham]

Oh right, stupid me, completly forgot the second heavy weapon.

 

Well I have an Assault cannon + W-claw ready to go so perhaps one of the combi-M should go as if they are midfield the melta probably wont do much anyways.

[Quillen]

You don't get a second heavy weapon you only have 7 guys.

 

You need 5 for each right?

 

I am using the same load out for my pods but with no SS. I am going with Combi weapons and plasma pistols. And 2 guys to take hits. I can squeeze 3 of these pods in my list, but I have been looking at just a grey hunter pod force. I can squeeze 4 of those in. SO I am torn.

[Arcus]

Hes got 3 WG Pack Leaders splitt off from the squad, so 2 heavy weapons is fine. i would think double assault cannons would suit midfield shenanigans... maybe 1 asscan and 1 heavy flamer to deal with hordes... i guess weapons loadout still all depends on what your trying to target with the squad. You need to deal with Inf. and Armour then ML, Hvy Inf/MEQ use asscans, Hordes get Purged ;)

 

Only my opinion of course :)

[Quillen]

Cyclone MLs are you friend. You can slap on a Combi weapon or Lightnging claws or Thunder Hammer and Storm shield. So they give you a bigger tactical edge over an Ass Cannon. Thou ass cannons look sweet.

[Jaarl Stormfang]

My problem with the 7 man squad is that you have 3 terminators, two of which (assuming you take heavy weapons) you just dont want to die, so you won't take saves on them. That reduces you to saving on power armour.

 

I'd possibly take heavy flamers, as they're not that expensive and are likely to do their damage in one turn, then you have no worries about using them to soak up ap 3+ firepower.

[Sarapham]

True about there being few terminators who does not want to die, however if I add more terminators I get less bodies overall and the stormshield guy/guys can soak up AP3 as well in a pinch if the combi-m guy dies.

 

While heavy flamer is good I mostly face Nurgle and Eldar flying circus which means very limited use and effectiveness in a h-flamer. I think the combination of ass-can and cyclone would fit better with more versatility and long range punch. Though I will probably be facing Nid swarms in a while in which the heavy flamer instantly will get a spot.

 

The main use of the unit, besides being awesome and fun :), is to drop in midfield at the start of the game to instantly be a thorn in the side of the opponent. I am hoping that just the presence and even thought of these guys will shift the enemies tactics, not letting him do as he wishes in the 1 or 2 first turns before my grey hunters can get into position. They will also be supported by a turbo-boosting pack of bikes.

[Ladislao]

You'd nees some combi-meltas too, to deal with armoured veicles and do maximum damage!

[Sarapham]

You'd nees some combi-meltas too, to deal with armoured veicles and do maximum damage!

 

 

I do have one. I know its not much but with the prospect of two heavy weapons and together with their midfield approach I sense that more combi-M might be a tad useless as I have a hard time seeing any vehicle trying to storm within 6inches of me.

 

If I feel the need to use them more aggressively and doing an alpha strike on tanks I´ll sure add another combi-M or two, perhaps putting it on a PA guy, which does add the drawback that he cannot shoot and assault with that bolter.

[Wildfire]

If you're determined to make a squad with that configuration, I'd do something like this:

 

Termie, cyclone, power weapon/wolf claw

Termie, cyclone, pfist/thunderhammer/chainfist

Termie, combi-melta, power weapon/wolf-claw

PA, ccw, bolt pistol

PA, combi-plas, ccw

PA, combi-plas, bolt pistol

PA, combi-melta, storm shield

Drop pod

Total cost: 326-341

 

That gives you 7 separate wargear loadouts for wound hiding shenanigans, 2 combi-melta shots on the drop if you need them, and 4 combi-plasma shots (10 high S low AP shots if you include the combi-meltas and missiles) on the drop if you prefer, while keeping plenty of powerweapon and powerfist attacks in assualt. You also have a PA with storm shield to put big nasty shots on, and 4 missile shots if you need them.

 

Although I might prefer putting one termie with cyclone on a slogging GH squad if you've got one already. This is a lot of eggs in a basket.

[SamaNagol]

A PA WG with just a Storm Shield is so expensive that you may as well just pay the extra 5 pts and get Terminator Armour and a Storm Bolter or Power Weapon

[Sarapham]

If you're determined to make a squad with that configuration, I'd do something like this:

 

Termie, cyclone, power weapon/wolf claw

Termie, cyclone, pfist/thunderhammer/chainfist

Termie, combi-plas, power weapon/wolf-claw

PA, combi-melta, bolt pistol

PA, combi-plas, ccw

PA, combi-plas, bolt pistol

PA, combi-melta, storm shield

Drop pod

Total cost: 331-346

 

That gives you 7 separate wargear loadouts for wound hiding shenanigans, 2 combi-melta shots on the drop if you need them, and 6 combi-plasma shots (12 high S low AP shots if you include the combi-meltas and missiles) on the drop if you prefer, while keeping plenty of powerweapon and powerfist attacks in assualt. You also have a PA unit with storm shield to put big nasty shots on, and 4 missile shots if you need them.

 

Although I might prefer putting one termie with cyclone on a slogging GH squad if you've got one already. This is a lot of eggs in a basket.

 

Very nice suggestions thank you.

 

I only have access to one cyclone at the moment so ass-can would have to substitute.

 

I like the idea of combi-plasma in the squad which would make up for the lack of PW among the PA and fit better with the midrange feel.

 

So you would not say another storm shield, that 1 is enought?

[Sarapham]

A PA WG with just a Storm Shield is so expensive that you may as well just pay the extra 5 pts and get Terminator Armour and a Storm Bolter or Power Weapon

 

 

But then it takes up more spots. My thought was that I could have 2 stormshields in PA taking as much space as just one SS in TDA.

 

Note that my eagerness to take PA WG also comes from that I´ve just converted up a cool bunch of them with a mix from chaos warriors in the same vein as Wolf Lord Mjolnir and some others here at the forum have done. :)

[LPetersson]

What do you guys think?

 

I've had a lot of success with WG squads of 4 TDA & 2 PA.

The extra 2+ save certainly helps their survivability.

Depending on how I envisage their usage I tend to go for something like this:

TDA Heavy Weapon/Wolf Claw

TDA TH/SS

TDA Combi-Plasma/CC weapon

TDA Combi-Plasma/CC weapon

PA Combi-Melta/SS

PA Plasma Pistol/Wolf Claw

 

Not necessarily like that always, but it's a pretty good and versatile unit. If I have the points, I like to bring Arjac to the table. He's an absolute beast

[Sarapham]

What do you guys think?

 

I've had a lot of success with WG squads of 4 TDA & 2 PA.

The extra 2+ save certainly helps their survivability.

Depending on how I envisage their usage I tend to go for something like this:

TDA Heavy Weapon/Wolf Claw

TDA TH/SS

TDA Combi-Plasma/CC weapon

TDA Combi-Plasma/CC weapon

PA Combi-Melta/SS

PA Plasma Pistol/Wolf Claw

 

Not necessarily like that always, but it's a pretty good and versatile unit. If I have the points, I like to bring Arjac to the table. He's an absolute beast

 

Hmm sounds interesting as well. It would ofcourse be good of me to be flexible with TDA/PA ratio but I would like as many bodies as possible. Isnt the TH/SS abit too expensive to actually want to locate AP1 and AP2 shots to? :cuss

[SamaNagol]

I have a unit with 1 CML, 2 PA with combi plas, 2 bp & ccw and 2 bolter & ccw with my terminator Rune Priest. They sit in the back field if necessary in objectives games.

[LPetersson]

Hmm sounds interesting as well. It would ofcourse be good of me to be flexible with TDA/PA ratio but I would like as many bodies as possible. Isnt the TH/SS abit too expensive to actually want to locate AP1 and AP2 shots to? :cuss

 

It isn't a cheap model, but at least it has a save, and a decent one at that so I find that it's worth it.

Of course, if I have the spare points, I'll usually replace the TH/SS/TDA model with Arjac Rockfist...

[Wildfire]

So you would not say another storm shield, that 1 is enought?

 

The storm shield is mainly for CC. Once you drop, you're probably going to use all the combi-weapons. Once those are used up, the PA marines are more or less expendable. Go ahead and take low AP wounds on them, and save the shield for powerweapon attacks.

[Clone]

I thought about doing a squad like this but with Ragnar or PA Njal but then I thought its simply too many points in one squad. It'll attract a lot of attention and most certainly die.