Ragner Blackmane Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Okay so I am completely stumped and don't understand how you solve any of the physic power Please help me!!!!! Thanks in Advance :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Take a psychic test. If you pass: continue. You measure a line 24" long from the Rune Priest's base to a model that he can see without touching a friendly model. The line continues through this enemy model until it stops 24" away from the Rune Priest. Every model that is touched by the line must take an Initiative test. If it fails it is dead. No Saves of any kind, no Feel no Pain, even if he has 10 wounds. Unless it's a vehicle or a unit that has the Jump Infantry/Wings rule(s) as they are immune to the power. Otherwise it's dead. Very dead. It is only the models touched that take the test so if you target a squad of Orks and you hit the Nob, the Warboss attached to them and 2 regular Orks then these 4 models take the test. If he fails the test for the Nob and the Warboss but passes it for the 2 regular Boys then he must remove the Warboss and Nob and cannot remove other models in their place. In effect, he can snipe at specific models in a unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2260918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 1. You nominate a target you can see. 2. Make psychic test. 3. If successful, draw a line 24" long that doesn't contact any of your own models. 4. Each model touched by the line makes an Initiative test. If they fail, they're dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2260920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Yeah, Stormbrow got it- only thing Id specify is that the "Wings" of a Chaos Lord et all just make them move like jump infantry, but dont actually change the unit type, thus they would still be affected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2260921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 remember, Monstrous Creatures get a bonus to the test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2260924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Just used JotWW this weekend. Took out quite a few Necrons, a few orks, and an ork mek nob with the shocka gun. Love this power. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2260926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpike Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 To add: The 24" line is hair-thin, not the full width of your tape-measure. You may wish to use a piece of string marked to length. You must have LOS to one of the models affected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2260931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragner Blackmane Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Aaahhh... now i understand that, but what is the initiative test? And thanks to all who have answered and helped me!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Aaahhh... now i understand that, but what is the initiative test? And thanks to all who have answered and helped me!!! An initiative test is where your opponent most roll a dice and get a number equal or under the initiative value of the affected model (marked as "I" in the stats), for example a marine has I = 4 which means you would have to roll 4 or under to pass the test. Note to this is that a roll of 6 on the dice is ALWAYS a fail, even if the model has I = 6 or higher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 And a Toughnes test works the same with the only difference beig on toughness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Here is a questions so I don't start a new one. When you aim at the first model, where do you aim? Is it the center of the model or could it be on the right side almost on the edge so it can get something else behind it? eg. ----- = base of model | = hair line of JotWW or can it be like this ----- | Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 But how does this work out if the åriest is in a squad? You dont have to use it to maxemice your numbers of units or anything, you can always target anything in the same unit as your unit is shooting at, asuming you can se it? :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 @HsojVvad, Anywhere crossing/touching the models base is legal, and you just keep on going thru models untill you reach the full 24 inches. @Niiai, im not sure if ive got ur question straight, but the normal ruels to shoot apply, with the exception that the power travels past/under any cover, allowing you to hit models behind it (as long as you have TARGETED a model thats in LoS) i think this works even for hills etc. the line can only be straight. hope i helped Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 humm i think the cant touch own model is only subkject to models infront of the first enemy model your targetinng ,(the one you can trace LOS to and hit first) but its ok if your guys are behind that guy onward ? or is it totally not able to hit your own guys ??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 @HsojVvad, Anywhere crossing/touching the models base is legal, and you just keep on going thru models untill you reach the full 24 inches. @Niiai, im not sure if ive got ur question straight, but the normal ruels to shoot apply, with the exception that the power travels past/under any cover, allowing you to hit models behind it (as long as you have TARGETED a model thats in LoS) i think this works even for hills etc. the line can only be straight. hope i helped Yes. I can se that my typing was a bit rubbish. If the rune rune priest is part of a grey hunter pack, he must shoot at the same target as his unit, correct? Can he still use JotWW to snipe induvidual models in that unit? Or does he need to maxemise the number of models he hits? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2261994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Can he still use JotWW to snipe induvidual models in that unit? Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 It is a but confusing how you guys are explaing this so I wanted to clarify how targetting is done (Or at least how I view targetting): The first model that the string touches counts as the target. You must have Line Of Sight. You may use him as a "pivot" point to aim at other enemies beihind him. Even those behind cover can be affected after the first target is selected. You can "snipe" enemy models if you target them correctly. If you are in a unit of Grey Hunters, you must select the first target model from the same unit that the Grey Hunters are firing at. It can be any model. (Advice: Use the RP power first before firing bolters.) Did I miss anything in regards to targetting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Can we please stop responding to threads where its completely clear that the original poster has not read the bloody rulebook or his/her codex?? STOP FEEDING THE IGNORANCE!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Can we please stop responding to threads where its completely clear that the original poster has not read the bloody rulebook or his/her codex?? STOP FEEDING THE IGNORANCE!!! I find this Ironic coming from a LOL Cat. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunak Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hey guys thought I would use this thread to ask another question. Do I need to aim jaws at a target that can be affected or can I aim it at,say a tank for example and then kill things behind it? Technically I can fire for example a bolt pistol at a Land Raider but I cant wound it,is it the same with jaws? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Can we please stop responding to threads where its completely clear that the original poster has not read the bloody rulebook or his/her codex?? STOP FEEDING THE IGNORANCE!!! I find this Ironic coming from a LOL Cat. :lol: But... but... ITS HUNGRY! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Hey guys thought I would use this thread to ask another question.Do I need to aim jaws at a target that can be affected or can I aim it at,say a tank for example and then kill things behind it? Technically I can fire for example a bolt pistol at a Land Raider but I cant wound it,is it the same with jaws? The FAQ says that you must have line of sight to the first model that the power effects, so if a tank's blocking the way, it's no good. If, however, that tank is parked behind some hapless chap, and there are targets behind the tank, the power will hit them (provided they're in line with the effect, and they're within range, of course). You just need to have line of sight to an "affectable" model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Hey guys thought I would use this thread to ask another question.Do I need to aim jaws at a target that can be affected or can I aim it at,say a tank for example and then kill things behind it? Technically I can fire for example a bolt pistol at a Land Raider but I cant wound it,is it the same with jaws? The FAQ says that you must have line of sight to the first model that the power effects, so if a tank's blocking the way, it's no good. If, however, that tank is parked behind some hapless chap, and there are targets behind the tank, the power will hit them (provided they're in line with the effect, and they're within range, of course). You just need to have line of sight to an "affectable" model. But he means if he can specifically target the tank to be that first model? Since the tank is a model I´m pretty sure that you can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Hey guys thought I would use this thread to ask another question.Do I need to aim jaws at a target that can be affected or can I aim it at,say a tank for example and then kill things behind it? Technically I can fire for example a bolt pistol at a Land Raider but I cant wound it,is it the same with jaws? The FAQ says that you must have line of sight to the first model that the power effects, so if a tank's blocking the way, it's no good. If, however, that tank is parked behind some hapless chap, and there are targets behind the tank, the power will hit them (provided they're in line with the effect, and they're within range, of course). You just need to have line of sight to an "affectable" model. But he means if he can specifically target the tank to be that first model? Since the tank is a model I´m pretty sure that you can. From the FAQ: Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf require line of sight? Does it ignore terrain that blocks line of sight (i.e., impassible terrain)? A. As a psychic shooting attack, Jaws of the World Wolf requires line of sight. The Rune Priest must have line of sight to the first model that the power affects – in effect he is treated as the target model; the power just happens to hit everybody else on its way through! So no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 But does not a tank count as a model in this case? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190701-i-dont-understand/#findComment-2262888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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