Clone Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 As the title says: what is our best FA choice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 That's largely dependant on synergy and play style. There's no single FA unit that makes the others redundant, they all have their uses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athalus Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I use three in my army - TWC, wolves, and bikes. Others are good too. TWC are probably the most iconic, but hardest to make (no real model atm). Bikers are fine for flanking. (just put a wg with em, let the fun ensue with flamers and heavy bolter assault bike) Jet pack guys I am not a fan of, but never used them Land speeders are pretty good and versatile (can go flamer/typhoon, melta/typhoon for lots of options) Cant go wrong with F-wolves. Cheap, dirty, and much improved by saga of the wolfkin (one would argue a must if your gonna take them). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Id say bang for your point? Probly Swiftclaws, they have pretty decent shooting, good speed, and a great charge they can just about gaurantee to get off- you can choose to leash them with a WG or a character, and their squad size is pretty generous. On the down side.... they cost alot of cash. Right up there though is the Landspeeder- particularly single MM and Typhoon+HB variants, as just about any list can find a use for their speed and firepower, even if not all players can downplay their fragility well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 I like Speeders, I have two Typhoons with HB's, 4 Krak missiles or frags a turn is great. I am thinking about converting some Wulfen using Beastmen parts to use as TWC, I am attracted to the 4 attacks base, S5 and T5. Decisions... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I've seen a guy using a Landspeeder with Typhoon and a MM, he was killing 3 Nid warrirors a turn with it. I personally love landspeeders and fen wolves, i'll also get TWC when/if they release models for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorgarXVII17 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Im going to go with Swiftclaws on this one. They make great vehicle killers, and can perform quite well against many unit types. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsloth Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Probably swiftclaws. But I like thunderwolves better just for 'coolness'. Only problem being that theres no propper model for em, that kind of hurts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I like swiftclaws, however not without a leader so the points add up pretty quick when deciding on either a HQ or WG to lead them. When you do put the points into them they are for sure hell on wheels. Running two packs seems to provide the best tactical advantage, though I have had good success with 3+1AB a WG and WL. Consistent game-play performance vs cost I would have to go with Land Speeder, but there is a learning curve on how best to play them and most get frustrated before they realize their advantage. Running in pairs seems to yield the best results for me. have not had a chance to playtest the TWM, but I have read many threads that praise them. Fen Wolves are a delicate choice and in a kill point game against the right opponent will make them a liability. Running in large packs with a HQ on a TWM seems like the way to go. I have had some mild success and find that any pack under 9 is a waste of points and a CW or SoW is mandatory. Those are the only ones I would suggest for top choice. Vrox. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2261940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 They're all good really. I've got a 5man TWC, 5 man swiftclaw, 12 fenrisian wolves and planning two small bike squads with WG + Attack bikes. Not really a fan of speeders but they definitely have they're uses, I rather spend the points on a Long Fang squad tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 My vote goes to the Land Speeder Typhoon. Works wonders against any opponent woth both frags and kraks, quie easy to keep alive ('cause of the 48" range) and very good for contesting. That said, I have not used swiftclaws in the new dex, but the used to be my favourite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearlessgod Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I'm also a big fan of Typhoon Landspeeders. They are a solid choice against tanks and infantry. As has been stated, they're best used in pairs. The ability to deep strike and pop a tank can be a game-changer. ~fearlessgod~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 the real answer to your question is yes (or 42 / 7, if you prefer that kind of thing). a lot of it depends on how you play. i personally like swiftclaws and skyclaws as they get up there and start the fun while my slower units get there, or the force the choice of what is going to be shot at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 3x MM/HF is a pretty solid choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Personally, I would think Swiftclaws are the best FA choice. The are fast, tougher, with a larger amount of attacks. Although they have a BS of 3, they do have twin linked bolters and are relentless in shooting, they have heavy weapon support, and they are priced fairly well point wise. Second come the Land speeders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I'm surprised so many people say Typhoons. They're rarely seen around here, and I rarely see anyone recommending them in the Army Lists section. Do that many people really use them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I run a pair with my DP lists normally, and always atleast one- the extra firepower and speed are amazing. Or, to look at it another way- 4 LFs with 2 MLs and 1 HB is 85pts- for 5pts you trade split fire and 4 wounds for fast moving skimmer and immunity to str 3 weaponry, and get to take as a FA slot instead of a precious HS slot. I think thats a good deal personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2262905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Cuneglas Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 A friend keeps talking about the speeder MM/HF, so I'm going to give it a try. I love the skyclaws. Put a Wolf Priest in with them, Mow, PF, Melta and that's a beastly unit. I have them move behind Rhinos or jump from terrain to terrain and they crush things when they hit them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannar Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I run two Typhoon in my alldroppod list, they work excellent, Deep strike abillity, great use against infantry and vehicles alike and 24´ flat out make it no brain choice for me... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Speeders, then TWC, then Bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 It seems like a pair of Typhoons is the best bet. I only have one at the moment but I expect to be getting another soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 A word of caution, land speeders are the biggest pain in the arse to put together, the top half and bottom half don't fit at all. :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucku Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I haven't used many FA choices in the new Codex. The Typhoon Landspeeder is awesome, especially against MCs in my experience. I'd like to try Skyclaws and have started gathering mod material for Thunder Wolf Cav. Bikes seem less useful to me given BS3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm thinking this is one of those style type selections since many of the choices perform quite differently. We really need more slots available. (One of the benefits of Canis if you like fen wolves and other FA choices) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190752-what-is-our-best-fast-attack-choice/#findComment-2263975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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