DevianID Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hey guys, I am working on a model to be a counts as attack bike. Besides rule of cool, it would be an offshoot of tactical dreadnought (terminator) armor, striped of the reinforced armor and energy field (2+5++ save), but tougher due to increased bulk (toughness 5) and fitted with a modified jump pack (bike ground movement). Maybe tactical destroyer (Raven) armor for the designation? http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC041632.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04159.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04158.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04157.jpg Any advice on modeling the thing? I already noticed I forgot to shave the sword off the left leg. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I really like it, I would love to see it painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2264492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I love the concept of the bike stand in, and the conversion is great. I think this could work but it needs something to make it less tau-ish, and more like space marines. Not sure how comfortable you are with greenstuff, but if you filled in all the lines on the chest and replaced it with a big aquila, it might make a world of difference. I think you are off to a great start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2264540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrl Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I think the modelling you have done is very good, I just can't bring myself to like it because of the Crisis Suit torso... It's only my opinion so you're perfectly within rights to ignore me but I think the termi Torso would look better. I realise that you don't want it to appear to have all the bulk of a regular suit but I would have looked for way to trim that down/bulk up a power armour torso before using the Crisis suit. As it is I think the Aquilla suggestion is a good one, the front of the suit already forms a very rough cross shape - talons, head, body and wings would fill that shape quite nicely and they'd be roughly in proportion (talons wouldn't reach the bottom ofc), throw on some purity seals etc and you've got a great model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2264553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riplikash Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I like the concept, but it feels like it needs more work. It just looks like a space marine torso got replaced by a battlesuit one. I mean, yes that is what it is, but it feels a bit too obvious. The proportions are a bit off. His groin has obviously been bisected and his arms pulled out of the sockets, and his torso stretched. Sorry, I hope I'm not coming off as too critical, I do like the concept, but I think it needs some more work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2264579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Heresy! :devil:, great conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2268042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Ok so in order to try and make the suit less tauish, without using a termie torso just yet, I found an old spider mech from battletech click tech. Heres the results (plus a nice slice on my left finger from bloodfeeder, my daemon exacto knife!) http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04172.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04171.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04170.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04169.jpg As an aside, the white is PVA glue, I use it to give a smooth finish on places where I dont want to file. The gold on the front I quickly painted to get a feel for the 'visor' the marine inside would use. As another option, I could slice the whole dome off and mount a recessed marine head, but I think if I pull off the visor deal it would be very cool. The pose is supposed to be an 'action' shot of him flying backwards squeezing a shot off--not sure if it translated well. I also forgot to drill the bolters, DOH! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2269686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 i was very sceptical at first but know its looking much better! its not tauish now and looks good, only problem is that although the flying backwards and shooting idea is good, he looks like he is falling over at the moment. i think this has improved alot and i wish you luck. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2269894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Reading the chinese words gave me a chuckle. I really like the produced effect- however I think it looks like the SM has no head. Perhaps make the body a little longer? :rolleyes:, other then that, lookin' good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2270695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 Ok here are the WIP pics for the second of the counts as attack bikes. I fixed the 'no head' issue I hoped by having the model raise its visor. I also relocated the arms a bit from the original model to keep the proportions roughly in line with a regular termie. His tail wings are land speeder wings as well. Thoughts? http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04176.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04175.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04174.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04173.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2271898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 OK here are the 2 'bikes' primed. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04177.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2272729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Awesome! I really like it now. Wondering what an opponent would say in response to those 'bikes' ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2273376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 im hoping they say "cool model" instead of "you have to use an attack bike model!" Bikes for space marines always threw me off. If you describe what the bike actually does for the marines it sounds a lot closer to a battlesuit than a bike. I mean, if something is described as making a marine faster and tougher, while carrying built in weaponry, and the ability to fire heavy weapons on the move, I immediately think of a battlesuit. I have a hard time seeing how a bike can do those things, but a battlesuit seems very reasonable--especially considering the marines already have other powered suits like the termie armor and dreadnought armor. Thats just my anti-bike rant for ya hehe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2273721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I'd roll my eyes, grumble something about Gundam, and shoot them with lascannons. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2273725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCEET Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Kinda reminds me of the childrens cartoon Centurions. Good concept though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2273858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 here they are with the basic colors down and a quick brown wash http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04178.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2274333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbit3 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 The major criticism I had with the first one, you seemed to correct with the second. and that was with the multi-melta. I think it looks much better without the mounting bracket. I assume since you removed it from the 2nd, you also removed it from the first. Cool idea man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2274533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Nice! They look good with colour on. It helps with grasping what they would look like on a battlefield ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2277111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 So here are some finished pics... Certain parts I dont like the paint job on, like the face, and the visor isnt 'popping' like I want, so I still have some minor things to do for the future. Considering a blue glow for the engines as well. Thoughts? Ways to improve? http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04184.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04183.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04182.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04180.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04179.jpg As a bonus, here is the next two 'counts as' attack bikes im working on! http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/Janine-photos/Archangel/DSC04195.jpg Edit: DOH! Forgot the chapter symbols!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190947-blood-raven-counts-as-attack-bike/#findComment-2279261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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