Are the Wolves of Fenris too Silly?

[TiguriusX]

According to one guy, who says its "suggested" that doesnt make that spoiler real.

 

 

Hence my usage of "allegedly"

 

 

I'll edit the spoiler tag to say alleged as well

[Valerian]

And Primarchs were retconned into the 40k Compendium from 1989

 

Ah cool, thanks. I suspected that it might have been in there, but I don't have that one.

 

Space Wolves have never, in any iteration of the fluff, been described to adhere to any sort of monastic doctrines.

 

Their first White Dwarf article featuring Ragnar, Njal and Ulrik showed them pretty much exactly the same as they are today.

 

Seems like people are just conjuring these issues out of thin air.

 

That was White Dwarf 156 and 157 (December 1992 and January 1993), and yes, the Space Wolves have been more or less the same ever since. However, for the 5 years prior to the release of those two White Dwarf's, the Space Wolves were pretty much just like every other Chapter in existence, which included the monastic theme. It is rather clear, I think, in The Book of the Astronomican, 1988, which featured a Space Wolves versus Orks scenario-driven campaign.

 

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[SamaNagol]

It is made very clear that the Fenrisian Wolves are some form of species other than terran Wolves. The line 'looked into it's eyes and saw an alien intellect' was even used. It is not made certain exactly WHAT Fenrisian Wolves are, but it is strongly hinted that they are certainly something more than just big ol pups. Hence the repeated use of the phrase 'There are no Wolves on Fenris' in the book.

[whitewolfmxc]

There are no wolves on Fenris

Really? I could have sworn there are wolf pelts on my Grey Hunters. :blush:

 

All will become clear as the strands of fate and time arrange themselves before you.

 

 

Don't be cruel to your brother Space Wolf.

 

"Alleged" Spoiler:

 

 

 

The latest HH novel allegedly contains a portion where Magnus discusses the settling of Fenris. It was too harsh for the original settlers so they were "altered" in a manner similar to Space Marines. The origin of the Canis Helix I think. The original Fenrisian Wolves as they are known were the failed alterations that went too far.

 

 

 

HAH i cant edit post that have quotes of others nor can i write anything in the replys ??? anyway lets hope they dont suddenly say Krackens are the results of experimenting XD

[whitewolfmxc]

Looksl ike full edit doesnt work

[WolfGuardVortek]

That is interesting, and a tad creepy..

[Quillen]

And in the Rogue Trader book it has the Fang. Yup a 5 story building on a platue in the montains. Nothing special. Including the meditation chambers and the Shrine room. Yes they were just like the other chapters then. And the Mighty Fang was like 5 stories tall.

 

GW is always screwing up thier fluff. If they didn't you might think they were a real company determind to make a true story line. But no they are GW.

 

And as the joke goes, I am looking forward to Count Dracula of the Blood Angels on his might bat mount. LOL

[JCarter]

I think that the closest "modern" parallel to the Wolves would be the fighter squadrons of WW I. Intense combat in the air with one's pack in a situation where much initiative and innovative action was expected followed by "partying" in the down time to relieve tension and remember fallen comrades. This is a different model from the Soviet concept of discipline, standardized battle drills and interchangability of persons and units. As with the squadrons, too often more emphasis is placed on actions in the down time rather than the combat time.

[xxvaderxx]

Space Wolves dont strike me as "three stoges" silly at all.

 

Ritual/Honor duels?

You might be thinking in the 3 Mosquetiers time, when there was little to no honor, but a lot of ego flying arround. If you get back to vikings, samurays, even fictional caracters as connan, they were all very polite and dueling was avoided as much as posible, leaving it to be the absolute last resort. Specially so betwin "brothers".

 

Bogeiman?

That doesnt fit the wolves at all, part of the fang is being out there, not hidding from anyone, they are the ones that keep the inquisition and all the other astartes in check, you cant do that from the shadows, and that is why the folk of the empire respect them.

[Ranwulf]

As many people said, don't confuse SW "party time" with their war skills. THEY ARE CUNNING and VERY DANGEROUS, hell, they thrive on fights! Check some of the Space Wolves Books and you will understand, they might seem silly for the outsiders, but when they are fighting you can actually understand whats about them.

[whitewolfmxc]

Theres a good SW comic called "lone wolves" , its a good source on what they do in between being a party animal (figureitive speech XD) and a warrior of Fenris

[Wolf Guard Dan]

I do not think that The Wolves of Fenris are comic relief at all. I have trouble finding fluff about them drinking all the time and not being taken seriously because of it. Nor do I think drinking and partying has been emphasized more in this edition than in the last edition. I think it is emphasized much at all anyways. I think a lot of the thoughts on them being drunkards comes from us. We like the idea that they drink so we tend to create that misconception.

 

We like to identify with our toy soldiers. I do not think that it is terrible to believe that they are drinkers because Wolves Players know how to party. And because a lot of us view them as vikings, who we also believe to be drunks.

This kind of rambled on a bit but here is the bottom line: I think as people we like to the of the SW's as drunkards, but it is not the case!

 

An exception to the "cominc relief" would be lucas. I would not want to call him comic relief to his face. He is the reprentation of Loki. Does what he wants and he is very good at it. I admit I lol'ed when I read his entry, but I think this guy is all about business. Even if he does represent the worse of our stubborn attitude with dealing with authority.