AcidBurn Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Greetings Brothers. I was at my local GW today and one of my friends had an amazing Beastman model the Beastmen Doombull to be exact. I took one look at it and thought Lone Wolf with mark of the wulfen here is the model in question: http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DoomBull.jpg the head is seperate from the body, the legs and back of torso are one peice, the left arm is seperate and the hands and the axe are awwell the model is huge but not quite as big as the Canis model. and i believe fluff wise that a full fledged wulfen i supposed to be as big as a thunderwolf or mabe a little smaller. I was wondering would it be feasible (fluff wise of course) to have a full fledged Wulfen that Retains most of his former sanity (well as sane as a space wolf can get anyway). I was thinking his load out would be: TDA Storm shield Wolf tooth necklace Mark of the Wulfen or some other load out obviously wysiwyg is completely out of the question but my gaming group all agreed that they would have no problems in me using him. I would like to use a wolf priest or 2 in the list with him, as kind of like his "minders" conversion wise it is very ambitious and i have been looking for something to push my modeling skills a bit, I think that I can honestly make it work (with a bit of blood sweat and elbow grease, not to mention Russ and the Allfathers blessing) I would like to hear your views brothers, good idea?, Bad idea? or am i completely insane? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think you could probably something as BIG as that to represent a fully 'Wulfen' marine, rather than one with just the mark. This could be represented in the rules by fielding him as a thunderwolf-rider. Personally, I think he is just too big to be a lone wolf with mark of the wulfen... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2269763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrox_futurus Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I agree a bit with nurglespuss, I think if you wanted to use that model merely to convey that it had Mark of the Wulfen it would be a bit overdone. The way I always looked as MotW is that they were in a sense wulf-bitten but not fully Wulfen, so they were in the process of changing, or were just taken by the heat of combat and let the inner wolf have too much control. I do however think it would be a pretty good idea because it would definitely bring a new element to the table, and just looking at the model might make the opponent feel like it needs to be killed ASAP, so they would focus quite a bit of time on it's destruction, giving your other selections time to get into position or do enough damage to throw the game in your favor. Basically, it seems a bit overkill to just represent Mark of the Wulfen, but it's a damn good idea and i would go with it nonetheless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2269796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagneticFreak Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Well, this model IMO is one of the best we have seen in a while to design a Wulfen-type character that could be standing on medium circular bases. It has a lot of potential. Be it a Lone wolf (or Tunderwolf Rider Count-as), it would be great. I mean, even old Dire Wolves head could do the trick without to much trouble. Aren't plastic ones available? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2269833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophecy Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 There'd be a pretty large GSing requirement. Probably no more than the undertaking I'm working on (converting Khorne Juggernaut to Thunderwolf Mount). If you decide to do it (and it definitely has some promise) I'd love to see some pictures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2269877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Mark of Wulfen =/= Full BLOWN Wulfen, which that model would be representing with some GS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2269970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Mark of Wulfen =/= Full BLOWN Wulfen, nope, not necessarily Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2270067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think you could probably something as BIG as that to represent a fully 'Wulfen' marine, rather than one with just the mark. This could be represented in the rules by fielding him as a thunderwolf-rider. Personally, I think he is just too big to be a lone wolf with mark of the wulfen... That is actually an awesome idea.... I brought some Rackham Wulfen models ages ago and have no idea what to do with them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2270116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Thanks for the comments Brothers: @atrox_futurus: im trying to go for a full Wulfen like the ones talked about in the novels and in the Thunder From Fenris audio book. I also was thinking it would make a good fire magnet my opponents would be like "holy crap, what the hell is that!" *queue Arnie Voice* "BRING IT DOWWWN!" @MagneticFreak: i was planning on using the armoured wolf head from the goblin wolf rider sprue @Prophecy: not as much greenstuffing as you would think. I had a pretty good look at the model all over today and have thought of some places on where to put the fur i sooooo cant wait do do this model and the only realy tricky bit i can see is removing the hoofs and sculpting new clawed feet, but again it would be something new and different to sculpt for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2270118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 what are you thinking of doing for the feet...not many wolves with hoves out there? ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2270584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 i plan on removing the feet completely and re sculpting them to look like claws. im thinking up some fluff for this guy today and will probably post it later this evening. im thinking some kind of tragic loss that triggers the wulfen transformation, combined with a genetic flaw in his gene seed (think of Hegar from the novels, his gene seed is defective) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2270622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 cool! looking forward to seeing it - was worried for a moment with "not much green stuff needed" that the paws wouldn't be getting attention. Sounds like you've got a good idea and it should work out well :) ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2270637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagneticFreak Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 By the way, has anybody though of using Rat Ogres for such a project. These are multi-part plastics with much more fur at look better IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2271061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 here you go Brothers some home grown fluff as i said this is part one, i was going to do more but my eyes are killing me i hope this gives you a good flavour of what the character is going to be like WARNING SOME PEOPLE MIGHT GET A LITTLE OFFENDED AND FOR THAT I APOLOGISE Gather round young Blood claws, the Saga i am about to tell is one of tragedy, one of sorrow, one of Rage and one of vengeance, for this is the story of Skarin Witherfang. The tail begins long before Skarin was accepted into the Ranks of the Steel Fangs, long before he became a True son of Russ. Skarin was well known amongst the people of his tribe the "Claw Runners" known for this incredible combat prowess and the love for his family, but he was known most for his incredible Temper. He was a giant of a man, at nearly seven and a half foot tall and nearly five foot wide, with long red locks down to his shoulders and a huge plated beard. He bore a Large Scar running from his Right shoulder down to the left side of his waist from some battle fought long ago. It was on the night of a Wolf Moon that his story took a rather tragic twist. Skarin was out on a late night hunting trip with several of the other worriors from the tribe and his beautiful wife Valalla had taken his two young sons Brom and Alric out to practice the art of night tracking when they were Ambushed by the neibouring tribes hunters, the two tribes had been at war for centuries but none had managed to gain the better on one another and all the battles ended in a perpetual stale mate, so naturally there mutual hatred for one another, however that was abour to change. The hunters siezed Valalla and the two boys whilst they were distracted looking at the areas flora and fauna. the two boys were brutally killed and Valalla had unspeakable things done to her. When Skarin returned after the hunt and found his hut dark and empty he knew something was wrong. He searched all round the village but found nothing and heard no news as to there whereabouts apart from one of the village elders who pointed him in the right direction. after searching the area in which the Elder had spoke of he came upon the first sign of something, it was a blood spater on one of the trunks of the great oak trees, he then found more on the ground. He used his tracking skills and followed the signs until he found a sight which shocked and horrified him, the battered and mutilated bodys of his two sons and lying next to them beaten and defiled was Valalla. He threw himself to his knees and held her nearly lifeless body in his arms. "Valalla!" he spoke with a distraught tone "Skarin my love" she wispered weakly "Thank Russ you are alive" he wispered back "i Just wanted to see you on last time" She sobbed feaverishly "What are you talking about Valalla the village healers can put you right" "They cannot help me.. .. .. .. i am too broken but it matters not for soon i will in the other world" she replied "Valalla noooooo, please not yet, who did this to you?" Valalla looked up at Skarin her breaths getting weaker and wispered "Kraken fang" and with that she departed from this world. "VALALLA NOOOOOOOOOO" Cried Skarin Skarin Broke Down and wept, his whole family was gone, Sadness and sorrow over wealmed him as he grieved, but then out of the midst of it all something stirred a feeling of pure rage, hate and vengence filled him fueled by his sorrow and pain, he could not think straight all he could see in his mind were the bodys of his wife and children. The raw emotions coursed through his veins like molten lava and Dragons breath until he could hold it in no longer, He stood up and roared at the moon , long and loud was his Roar but it did nothing to quench his pain and anguish. a madness took him he could think of nothing but revenge, he took his hunting knife and Carved the runes of his children and wife into the flesh of his left arm,. the blade bit deep and he used the sting to add to the stock pile of rage that was building within him, then off he went, he ran like the wind in the direction on the Kraken Fang Village. There ware two sentries posted at the entrance to the village, but they proved no match for Skarin, He fell upon them like a thunder bolt, felling the two burly men swift blows from his Axe, he was glad he still had it from the hunt later that evening. The hour was late and the whole village was asleep, how foolish he thought to only post two men at the entrance. He made it to the center of the village and bellowed "KRAKEN FANGS! I HAVE COME FOR VENGEANCE! STAND AND FIGHT YOU RAPISTS AND CHILD KILLERS!" A few seconds later and he heard the rushing of footsteps and the clanging of weapons and soon the whole village was up in arms against him. "SEND ME SO MEET MY FAMILY CURS, HAVE AT YOU!" Skarin screamed with Rage and with that he threw himself at the whole village. The battle was long and bloody but still he fought on, and on until the end there was only him left standing and a pile of slain at his feet. "is there no one that can grant me my wish!" Skarin asked seemingly to no one. "I can" Said a voice Skarin whirled round and came face to face with an old man clad in strange armour with a huge black wolf pelt draped over his shoulders. "I can give you a glorious death if you so shall let me" "one of Russ's chosen!" Skarin gasped and averted his gaze "i am indeed Skarin of the Witherfangs" the old man replied "i have been watching you Skarin and much hate do i see in you, tell me would you put down your vengeance and hate in exchange for a glorious death as one of Russ's chosen?" as the strangely clad man spoke Skarin could feel his pain and sorrow leaving him and his rage and hate ebbing away, as he looked the stranger in the eyes he felt more at peace and felt as if this would one day bring him back to his family again. "Aye" Skarin Replied "Good, we have much need for great warriors such as you Skarin, my name is Degar Stormclaw". to Be continued Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2271372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 yey i have the parts! rushed to my local GW from work today to pick up the doom bull and now i have it! just thought id take a few pics of the bits before i started hacking him up in case anyone else was having thoughts on making one along these lines http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DSC_0001-2.jpg id just like to say golly look at the size of that massive axe i think il call it a Maxe lol http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DSC_0002-2.jpg regarding the fluff i wrote there will be part two posted in a few days Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 That is a huge model. Personally I would probably use the Rat Ogre or Minotaur as a TWC counts as. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 its not a TWC count as, its going to be a lone "wulfen" oh wait see what i did there lol. and i want him BIG, i mite use him as a TWC but time will tell Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon de Gravier Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 taile is spelt tale not tail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I'm sure you could pull it off, but you're going to have to do a lot of work on the legs and head. I still think it looks too big for a Lone Wolf, even one as big as Haegr. At least you did not use the awful new plastic minotaurs. And an interesting piece of fluff - congrats :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Definitely an ambitious project and thank you for a really good tale! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I dont like the new minotaurs mini's its probably the flesh tones GW has them painted up in and the weird muscle tone they have. However i am eager to see what you do with it. Personanly I have ammassed a large collection of Wulfen models from Rackahm, I was going to do a full wulfen army using the old nidzilla lists, all cc no shooting, using the nid codex with rules for carnies as the wulfen, and hive tyrant for wulfen lord, gene stealer rules for the wolfs packs etc. But now i could use them as TWC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I like it- run him as a Lone Wolf in TDA, givem a TH and SS, or a pair of frostblades ;). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2276949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 hi guys thought i would post an update in my hungover state this morning uuuurg too much ale last nite too much: removed some of the chaosy bits from the axe http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DSC_0003-2.jpg filed some of the spikes down http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DSC_0004-2.jpg and last but not least i had to hack off the hoofs and this bit took so much effort, especially since my clippers are kind of broken http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DSC_0006-2.jpg http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/DSC_0005-2.jpg also i dont know if you can realy see it properly on the pics but the belt makes a realy good wolf skull once the horns have been clipped off, i need to do a slight bit of tidying up with greenstuff on the belt. more updates later today urrrgh the brightness of the screen hurts my eyes, im off to recover for a bit *grumbles to him self and walks away* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191321-would-it-be-possible-doombull-wulfen/#findComment-2278146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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