Saga of the Beastslayer Question

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My appologies if this has already come up somewhere but I couldn't find anything with the search.

 

The codex states under saga of the Beastslayer thata charachter with this saga can reroll failed to hit rolls against walkers, MCs and toughness 5 models.

Simply put there is nothing stating that this is only in CC.

I just assumed that it would be hand to hand fighting rerolls only but do you think that a Rune Priest with Living Lightning and a chooser could reroll missed BS 5 shots against the above mentioned targets or am I pushing my luck here?

 

cheers

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[whitewolfmxc]

its both

[Wolf Lord Ronin]

I think it's intended for CC only, but if you look at it, it is both. Which is awesome, and makes sense, since a beastslayer would need to know where to aim for the right spots in bringing down them beasties worthy of sagas in both shooting and hand-to-hand. That being said, this just makes Living Lightning even more lethal.

[Vassakov]

But You don't need to roll to hit for psychic shooting power!

 

Yes, you do.

 

And yes, it does. Rune Priest w/ Living Lighting, Storm Caller Master of the Runes and Beastslayer is very nice, especially if you face some T5 armies (Death Guard, Nurgle Daemons, some Nid forces etc.)

[Madsakre]

But You don't need to roll to hit for psychic shooting power!

 

Is this true?

[CainTheHunter]

Sorry, my mistake, already tried to edit my post, too late... With blasts, You don't. I've never done his for Jaws as well - do I have to?

But for LL, there must be to hit roll.

[stinkenheim]

not all powers need a to hit roll, with space wolves the following would- living lightning and fury of the wolf spirits.

the others don't but if they are shooting attacks require all he other criteria to be met.

 

if the power requires a to hit roll then saga of the beastslayer would allow re-rolls to hit.

other attacks, ranged or otherwise would also be subject to the re-rolls granted by the saga.

[CainTheHunter]

not all powers need a to hit roll, with space wolves the following would- living lightning and fury of the wolf spirits.

the others don't but if they are shooting attacks require all he other criteria to be met.

 

And not the MH?

[Level]

Wow, I think that the Saga of the Beastslayer on a LL Rune priest just became 15 points of Awesome.

Thanks guys

[CainTheHunter]

Wow, I think that the Saga of the Beastslayer on a LL Rune priest just became 15 points of Awesome.

Thanks guys

 

10 points.

 

And also I think PP is a viable option, because with BS 5, You are re-rolling those pesky "get's hot"- "1" rolls, instead of taking armor saves. Providing You shot plasma at MC, walker etc.

[Schertenleib]

Re-roll is BS 6

[Oldenhaller]

And not the MH?

 

Nope - it states that it does 3D6 hits and there fore does not require a shooting attack roll

 

~O

[Schertenleib]

Darn, missed that one!

[Grey Mage]

Re-roll is BS 6

Or a special rule like twinlinked, etc.

 

Edit: I feel its worth noting that a Wolf Priests Oath of War does NOT work for shooting attacks, only CC.

[Sarapham]

Re-roll is BS 6

Or a special rule like twinlinked, etc.

 

Edit: I feel its worth noting that a Wolf Priests Oath of War does NOT work for shooting attacks, only CC.

 

 

However Ulric´s oath works in both... right?

[Grey Mage]

Re-roll is BS 6

Or a special rule like twinlinked, etc.

 

Edit: I feel its worth noting that a Wolf Priests Oath of War does NOT work for shooting attacks, only CC.

 

 

However Ulric´s oath works in both... right?

Yes, since it operates under an entirely different and self contained rule.

[Wildfire]

Wow, never noticed either of those things. I assumed it was for CC only. Hmm, does Ulric in a bunch of Long Fangs sound wierd? Good bye, TMCs!

[Marshal Wilhelm]

Yes, since it operates under an entirely different and self contained rule.

 

Greymage your inbox is full!

 

Little pig, little pig, let me in!

[Hfran Morkai]

Wow, never noticed either of those things. I assumed it was for CC only. Hmm, does Ulric in a bunch of Long Fangs sound wierd? Good bye, TMCs!

 

That's quite a cunning strategy, considering I find taking the saga with a character thrown in with Blood Claws/Hunters fairly useless because they don't go after big things, but four Long Fangs with missile launchers and a multi-melta with re-rolls could be fun. Plus he can crush skulls if someone decides to have a go.

[Grey Mage]

Yes, since it operates under an entirely different and self contained rule.

 

Greymage your inbox is full!

 

Little pig, little pig, let me in!

Ok, cleared out a couple message *sorry, Im a major packrat*

[Iacton Qruze]

Ulric's rule only works in CC, because you have to allocate attacks vs a model with T5 or higher to get the bonus, which you can't do in the shooting phase.

[whitewolfmxc]

but if your shooting one MC with T6 , you ARE allocating your attacks to hit and to wound rolls on that model , it should still work ? Its like how the FAQ for Arjack with his targetting rules , if majority is T5 or above it still works ?

 

Obviously ther problem with the wording here and other rules related is that it doesnt stat its CC attack or shooting attack , dues we can assume its both

[Iacton Qruze]

Well, that's a good point, Although the text specifies "model". I suppose if a majority in the unit were T5+ then you could get the rerolls... I think there are those that would argue against it, though.

 

I wish GW would quit writing such fuzzy rules.

[Grey Mage]

Well, that's a good point, Although the text specifies "model". I suppose if a majority in the unit were T5+ then you could get the rerolls... I think there are those that would argue against it, though.

 

I wish GW would quit writing such fuzzy rules.

 

There are few instances where a single model will have T5 and the rest of the unit will have a lower toughness... Ork Warbosses, Tyranid Primes.... and maybe a biker HQ thats in a unit of infantry for a MEQ army. Ooo and Cassius.

 

Against Monstrous Creatures though we know were good, as they can never join a unit anyways, save Tyrant Gaurd wich are T 6 anyways.

[Skirax]

Pretty much every psychic power apart from Storm Caller and Tempest's Wrath are psychic shooting attacks.