ahorsecalledwar Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Being dreads do they still get counter charge? Being a fallen hero id say yes but there are some people that say no to the idea! Sureley this is madness if they can charge then they must be able to counter charge because its a SW special rule ? Care to shed some light on this for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I am at work so not sure, but does the dreadnought entry in our codex list them as having counter-attack? If not, then they do not have the special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dansef Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Under the Counter Attack general entry in C:SW it does state that all Space Wolves have the Counter Attack special rule, however - in the specific unit entries, the Dreadnoughts do not have this ability listed. As a result, I would say that they don't have it on account of the fact that everything else in the Codex except vehicles is specifically noted as having it. While the hero interred in the Dreadnought was a serving Space Wolf - to be placed into a Dreadnought in the first place does mean he was at the brink of death and now serves essentially as a walking tank. I think any effort to give him the Counter Attack ability would be going against both RAI and RAW. A resounding no from me I'm afraid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 What does their entry in the codex say???????? if it isn't there under their special rules, then they don't get it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 No they dont have counter attack. Period Just like any vehicle cannot make use of Accute senes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I belive counter attack is supposed to have something to do with the speed of the space marine, being able to respond quickly and charge someone while being charged, if they pass a moral test. Basicly you see a group of something charing at you screaming and swinging swords, you stand your ground and prepare for the attack, or you dig deep, grab ahold of your boys and charge back at them screamin all the louder. Alas, a Dred lacks the speed for that from a fluff perspective, and it lacks the leadership check from the mechanical perspective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 They used to get it, but the new codex left that by the wayside... and its not a huge issue anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 simple answer, no as they do not have a ld stat, therefore could never pass the test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/191711-this-may-have-been-asked-befor/#findComment-2275230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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