minigun762 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Do any of the Legions have a particular flair for naval engagements or ship-ship fighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 black legion have the greatest fleet with the planet killer and whatnot. They are also based on their ships IIRC. I dont think they have taken a daemon world in all the time they've been in the warp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Not a legion, but Red Corsairs seem pretty good at this kind of thing, being pirates and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Not a legion, but Red Corsairs seem pretty good at this kind of thing, being pirates and all. Corsair meaning pirate.. You'd think it might be obvious <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Crippster Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Death Guard plague fleet with the [insert name of Typhus' ship here] are also pretty strong I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Terminus Est. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Crippster Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 that's the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Which from Latin has a number of translations... Cool name though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Red corsairs...aargh! they be pirates! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Red corsairs...aargh! they be pirates! :D Red Corsairs are the main example to be sure. I mean anyone who can steal a Space Wolf Strike Cruiser has to be doing something right right? My question was more about the original Legions, even going back to pre-Heresy. I don't know if any of them stand out as naval specialist but then again it might have been outside their scope of operations to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Red corsairs...aargh! they be pirates! :o Red Corsairs are the main example to be sure. I mean anyone who can steal a Space Wolf Strike Cruiser has to be doing something right right? My question was more about the original Legions, even going back to pre-Heresy. I don't know if any of them stand out as naval specialist but then again it might have been outside their scope of operations to do that. To be honest I can't really think of any, but I think logiv permitting the White Scars might be a good exponent of that type of warfare... Remember its a from of hit and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archnomad Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 In the heresy, and even now, it's the Imperial Navy that do the majority of fleet actions. Marines DID have more powerful fleets in the days of the Crusade. Now they've had much everything stripped from them, in case they rebel, they can't have a very powerful space presence. It's a "safety button" basically. Now if you're talking literally, Chaos Undivided fleets, for being able to bring everything to the table. Or Nurgle's Plaguefleets are pretty damn scary (as well as the Terminus). And then there's the Black Legion's Planet Killer. Who says they wont make another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 What I should have added intomy previous post: Ican't think of any Legion who turned traitor who would excel at ship-to-ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 What I should have added intomy previous post: Ican't think of any Legion who turned traitor who would excel at ship-to-ship. I would think World Eaters and Death Guard would be a pain in boarding actions :< even more than normal marines... Also in the Heresy didn't the Alpha Legion hold up the White Scars and Space Wolves for a while by messing them about in space. I don't really know any details and I may be wrong :S :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Alpharius managed to run circles around Horus's fleet. He actually managed to board the ship and got to the bridge where him and Horus were about to fight but then they stopped and laughed and hugged or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWinds Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 All of them.... Each Legion commanded a pretty big fleet made up of smaller ships and a battle barge or two. Dreadclaws are designed as assault boats that latch onto the enemy ship, then cut a doorway for the marines inside. All the Legions were mostly fleet based going throughout the galaxy taking over planets... they spent most of their lives on ships. So all of them. Is there 1 in particular that focuses on ship to ship engagements... of course not, thats what the navy is for, Marines in the great crusade were for taking planets quickly and with little resistance. Their ships were for getting them to the planets. Now Legions known for having big fleets or special ships. I would say Black Legion and Word Bearers. WBs did have that giant ship in the heresy, and sure seem to have a lot of ships post heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepstrike Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Emperors Children and Fulgrim were very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 today,the best naval legion is the Black Legion,without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 sorry,it's duplicated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 All of them.... Each Legion commanded a pretty big fleet made up of smaller ships and a battle barge or two. Dreadclaws are designed as assault boats that latch onto the enemy ship, then cut a doorway for the marines inside. All the Legions were mostly fleet based going throughout the galaxy taking over planets... they spent most of their lives on ships. So all of them. This supports my original idea and the reason I asked the question in the first place, namely creating a Legion warband with a strong focus in ship/ship engagements and a fleet based approach. I assumed that since Chaos is typically a raiding/invasion force it would make sense for it to heavily rely on warships and transports and the novels like Storm of Iron , Cadian Blood and Dark Creed support that. I suppose in that light, there wouldn't be anything spectacular with a Chaos Marine leading his own fleet. Instead that would be the norm. Glad I thought this through before asking haha. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Ironwinds speaks sense yet again-during the great crusade all legions had huge fleets so were kinda evenly matched. If i had to say now-probably the black legion just because they are led by abaddon and built the planet killer (and arent they fleet based now too??? im not too sure but i think they are). But the red corsairs are pirates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Chaos_Brute Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Iron Warriors are the best at everything, duh. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmlee Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Well, the black legion has a blackstone fortress or two still don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David the Despoiler Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I think one, the second was destroyed in the 13th Black Crusade, I believe. The Black Legion is definitely the most powerful naval-based Chaos Legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergrmir Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I would think the Night Lords would have ship captains really adept in small squadron engagements, but their cruiser and larger sized ships would probably be few in number and not serve any purpose for them. Word Bearers probably have the manpower and organisation to maintain a large fleet, as well as the Black Legion. I don't see any of the Cult Legions being particularly powerful in space but the WE and DG certainly have tactical doctrine that would likely be well used in boarding actions. Iron Warriors likely maintain lots of spaceborne artillery and a ton of assault landers. I would think the Alpha Legion probably has the largest number of independently operating fleets, but then their nature and business is to move about independently doing their work. They'd also have the manpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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