Brother Hadafix Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 To much time on my hands, but I was thinking. Could the Oblitorator virus be used on Necrons and C'Tan? Does it work on Wraithbone? I know it works on Nid's and Imperial tech, but what, if any are its limitations? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I know it works on Nid's and Imperial tech, but what, if any are its limitations? Really? Can I ask where this is from please? (Genuinely interested, not sceptical!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2285897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Hadafix Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 I know it works on Nid's and Imperial tech, but what, if any are its limitations? Really? Can I ask where this is from please? (Genuinely interested, not sceptical!) Storm of Iron (I think) the IW capture a Nid ship to use as a kind of Drop Pod. I know this is BL, but if it wasnt for BL the background would be a much duller place and we would be wondering how much of the 40K universe works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2285907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Well they were using a modified version of the virus. I imagine it works on living carbon based forms most likely. How would a virus survive in metal? The necrons and C'tan are both made of metal so I don't think it would work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2285914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I can't see C'Tan being affected, as they are only choosing to manifest their energy based lifeforms within the Necrodermis bodies; If they chose to appear as Stay Puft men they could. As the Obliterator virus crosses the organic-metallic divide as symptoms develop, I could see Necrons being affected, and Pariahs certainly so, as long as their gods let it happen. (opinion, nothing to back it up!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2285924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Hadafix Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 Well Oblititorators are part Marine (organic) part Armour (Machine) and part Daemon (energy life form?) it would be could it not be assumed that it could affect anything made of those parts? What about a Monolith? Or infecting a Tomb World? And Wraithbone, is that immune or would it also fall? If it can, that would be a funny way to take out a Craftworld. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 If you read the progression of the virus though it always starts off on a living organic host. Sure at the end of it they look all weird and metallic etc but that's only after they have absorbed weapons etc. This certainly gives the impression of it only affecting organic material. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWinds Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 It works best on mechanicus adepts, servitors, and tech marines. Already so much machine and human to work with. I imagine things that are completely organic are harder to work with as there is no technology and metal to work with. I'm also going to have to say it wouldn't hurt a necron or pariah, and most certainly not a monolith or C'tan. The last 2 are made of living metal which I imagine would snuff out the virus pretty quick. I highly doubt it effects any necrons though. No organic life to infect and work with. They are the anti- to psykers and the warp so I don't see a demon based virus doing very well. It sure wouldn't hurt the pariah because its very presence would be harmful to the demonic part of the virus. I would personally love to see it effects on Tau... especially a crisis suit. Wraithbone... hmmm... don't know. If it did I imagine Slaanesh would be happy. As the virus traveled across the wraithbone it could eat up any spirit stones along the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 The wraithbone hull of a craftworld has its own immune system (little wraithbone spiders that auto repair breaches/damage, or seal off compromised areas) so I doubt it would have much of an effect on it. There is an article for Inquisitor (the 54mm game) on the obliterator virus that may be of interest here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060215122121/...obliterator.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Hadafix Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 The wraithbone hull of a craftworld has its own immune system (little wraithbone spiders that auto repair breaches/damage, or seal off compromised areas) so I doubt it would have much of an effect on it. There is an article for Inquisitor (the 54mm game) on the obliterator virus that may be of interest here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060215122121/...obliterator.pdf That link is interesting... So having it working on necrons is very iffy, and Waithbone only a maybe. Having it affect Tau just seems mean, they wouldn't know what had hit them. I can see Orks having a bad time with it as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Obliterator virus,in my opinion,only works successfully in subjects with some level of comprehension of machines and their language,natural or learned . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Well according to some sources they gain that knowledge via the virus during one of the stages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 yeah,it's true...but if obliterator's virus can work in any kind of humans,for example....why chaos lords don't spread it in a Hive world and turn all the population in obliterators?may be the virus has some limitations... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 The non-Iron Warrior version is slow in progression and hard to contract so it would only produce a limited number of infected individuals. Without any weapons or tech for them to absorb I don't know what would happen to them. I guess you just get nids made of that weird skin, until it gets eaten. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintevil Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 The wraithbone hull of a craftworld has its own immune system (little wraithbone spiders that auto repair breaches/damage, or seal off compromised areas) so I doubt it would have much of an effect on it. There is an article for Inquisitor (the 54mm game) on the obliterator virus that may be of interest here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060215122121/...obliterator.pdf That link is interesting... So having it working on necrons is very iffy, and Waithbone only a maybe. Having it affect Tau just seems mean, they wouldn't know what had hit them. I can see Orks having a bad time with it as well. I think Orks would rather love it. IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192529-the-oblitorator-virus-does-it-have-limitations/#findComment-2286559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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