stinkenheim Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi, i tried search and nothing popped up (other than a topic about whether scouts can target individual models) so if this has been covered my apologies. Recently in the sapce wolf forum there has been a thread about Lukas the Trickster, the overpriced suicide bomber in our army. During it one of the members mentioned about how they used a vindicare to shoot him to trigger the bomb. Also mentioned was using the assassin to kill the last remaining model locked in assault to enable you to fire other units at the now freed up enemy squad. I realise that the Vindicare is able to target any enemy model in a unit, and used to be able to target ICs within range x" of other squads but the idea of targetting your own units is to me entirely wrong and against not the 'targetting restrictions' but the rules as a whole. I was wondering if it was just me or have i got this wrong? In short, can a Vindicare assassin target friendly models with a shooting attack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 the general consensus is that he can shoot your own guys. Infact i think anything can shoot your own units if you want, its not adviseable but theres no rules against it, the vindicare can break the normal restrictions of being in assault.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2286089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 the general consensus is that he can shoot your own guys. Infact i think anything can shoot your own units if you want, its not adviseable but theres no rules against it, the vindicare can break the normal restrictions of being in assault.. A firing unit can choose a single enemy unit that is not locked in combat as its target, and may not split its fire among different targets. In order to select an enemy unit as a target, at least one model in the firing unit must have line of sight to at least one model in the target unit. If no models have line of sight then a different target must be chosen. BRB, p.16 Nope, only enemy units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2286135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 "the vindicare can target any model in range and line of sight, regardless of any targeting restrictions" pg32 C:WH I think he can shoot friendly units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2286143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I stand corrected :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2286147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Yeah, I was responding to the "Infact i think anything can shoot your own units if you want" part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2286149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTang Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 And the always hilarious situation of shooting your own units and failing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2286237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Yes you can, although it's very rarely useful ~Gil ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2291666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Yes you can, although it's very rarely useful ~Gil :ph34r: you would be suprised. "Damn that one guy managed to survive the assault, now my army cant shoot the enemy to hell and back" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2291893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apogee Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Q. Can a Vindicare Assassin target a modellocked in close combat? A. Yes – how cool is that?! This breaks one of the universal rules of shooting; I'd assume he can break the others, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2293426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Yes you can, although it's very rarely useful ~Gil ;) you would be suprised. "Damn that one guy managed to survive the assault, now my army cant shoot the enemy to hell and back" true, but I dislike killing my grey knights ;) ~Gil ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2295467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Yes you can, although it's very rarely useful ~Gil ;) you would be suprised. "Damn that one guy managed to survive the assault, now my army cant shoot the enemy to hell and back" true, but I dislike killing my grey knights ;) ~Gil ^_^ shoot to wound then. just cus something is removed as a causulty does not mean they are dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2295474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I think this one's rambling on a bit pointlessly and off topic.... the original rules question has been answered. The whys and hows you might want to discuss in the Tactica Astartes section probably. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192541-vindicare-assassins-and-shooting-your-own-units/#findComment-2295644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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