Our Codex being used by other Chapters

[Skirax]

I was thinking, could our codex be used by a Pre-Heresy Iron Hands force? Now this may seem a bit silly at first, but one thing seems to stand out above the rest; Wolf Guard Pack Leaders.

 

In fluff, during the Crusade the Iron Hands were allowed to have suits of Tactical Dreadnought Armour for their sergeants, due to their close ties to the Mechanicum. Now, if a WGPL in TDA joined the Grey Hunters, removing one of the PA pack members, then that would work with this fluff, surely?

 

Iron Priest are allowed Cyberwolves right? What if these were Mechanicum constructs designed to help our Iron Hand Techmarines in combat where they would be weakest?

 

Kaargul, the Iron Hands member who came up with the idea of replacing Companies with the Clans of Medusa was interred into a Dreadnought sarcophagus about a century into the Crusade. Could he be represented by Bjorn?

 

The Iron Hands had a lot of Terminators which, if including Logan in the list, could be represented by Wolf Guard TDA Troops.

 

There were more, but I can't find them right now...

[Brother Anchelos]

I think its a nice idea, but you have to remember not to make all things too wolfy. As I remember from their fluff, Iron Hands would still have Terminators as their sergeants.

And the idea of Kaargul/Bjorn is also okay.

Of course, as far as my opinion is concerned, you will have to make suitable models for these Iron Hands, but as far as the rules go, it's totally up to you how you will use them and to which army. Especially in Pre-Heresy.

In my opinion - it's a great idea.

[Spacefrisian]

I think leaving out any Wolf thing like Fenrisian wolves and thunderwolves cav will get you pretty far. Go for it i would say.

[Brother Nihm]

I think leaving out any Wolf thing like Fenrisian wolves and thunderwolves cav will get you pretty far. Go for it i would say.

Seconded, I think that it fits the fluff well.

[Natanael]

Maybe you could use something to "counts as" cyberwolves to you techmarines, like familiars or something. I've been thinking about doing an IH force myself and it seems you just solved my "what codex am I going to use"-issue. Great idea.

[Skirax]

Well, I'm not going to do it, I was just brainstorming. For Pre-Heresy, I'm using the Tempus Fugitives pack. I like the Expeditionary fleets and my contains Wolves, IH, World Eaters, Warriors, and Fists.

[hendrik]

but what about counterattack then? how would this fit the iron hands?

[Skirax]

Ah, that is the part I was wondering about. Maybe, if your going to use them mid heresy, to show their willingness to prevent the traitors from gaining the upper hand?

[The_Betrayed_Spacewolf]

if rumours are correct you would probably better off using Codex Blood Angles. With a chance to field more dreadnoughts than anyone else, attack servitors, squads of dreadnoughts they may be your bet.

[hendrik]

Ah, that is the part I was wondering about. Maybe, if your going to use them mid heresy, to show their willingness to prevent the traitors from gaining the upper hand?

but then why wouldn't all the current chapters have that? i'm afraid we hate the traitors even more now then we did back then

[The_Betrayed_Spacewolf]

codex asartes expressly forbids common sense.

[Skirax]

Ah, that is the part I was wondering about. Maybe, if your going to use them mid heresy, to show their willingness to prevent the traitors from gaining the upper hand?

but then why wouldn't all the current chapters have that? i'm afraid we hate the traitors even more now then we did back then

The way I look at it, in those days to commit heresy was unspeakable, and when a governor betrayed the Imperium, the might of the Astartes came down on him hard. And just the idea of a treacherous Astartes was absurd, and near impossible. So a grand treachery, and the idea that they are destroying things they helped create, would anger marines far beyond those of the current date, where heresy happens nearly every week.

[hendrik]

Ah, that is the part I was wondering about. Maybe, if your going to use them mid heresy, to show their willingness to prevent the traitors from gaining the upper hand?

but then why wouldn't all the current chapters have that? i'm afraid we hate the traitors even more now then we did back then

The way I look at it, in those days to commit heresy was unspeakable, and when a governor betrayed the Imperium, the might of the Astartes came down on him hard. And just the idea of a treacherous Astartes was absurd, and near impossible. So a grand treachery, and the idea that they are destroying things they helped create, would anger marines far beyond those of the current date, where heresy happens nearly every week.

but on the other hand, they would have to fight their brothers. men they've bled and fought with. i can see it being far harder to kill someone you bled with, fought with and lived with then some guy who did a great evil and you've been taught to hate with every inch of your body