stvnpc Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I have a question that might seem simple. But I am going to ask anyways. When it says under that Wargear section of a troop model that the model has a bolter, chain sword, and bolt pistol, does that mean that during a game does that mean he has all three? Please let me know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 yes, he has all three. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2288741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stvnpc Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 That is what I thought. Thanks for confirming what I thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2288750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 It was the simple way around giving us the old "True Grit" rule, where we got to count Bolters as Bolt Pistols when in CC. Now, instead our Grey hunters count as having all three. Also means that a Grey Hunter squad can feature a mix of Bolter/CCW and Bolt Pistol/CCW models without causing shooting-time headache - No need to pick out "Okay, shooting bolters, but these three have bolt pistols and are out of range." I would not be surprised if this method creeps its way into the other marine codex's over time... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2288792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtynorseman Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Another quick question along the same lines. How is everyone handling this from a modeling aspect? Are you actually modeling all three weapons onto the grey hunter? Is it necessary to do so for game play? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2366389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzer Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 It was the simple way around giving us the old "True Grit" rule, where we got to count Bolters as Bolt Pistols when in CC. Now, instead our Grey hunters count as having all three. Also means that a Grey Hunter squad can feature a mix of Bolter/CCW and Bolt Pistol/CCW models without causing shooting-time headache - No need to pick out "Okay, shooting bolters, but these three have bolt pistols and are out of range." I would not be surprised if this method creeps its way into the other marine codex's over time... It was already in the newest Chaos Space Marines codex a few years ago - my Plague Marines went from Bolter + True Grit to Bolter + Bolt Pistol, and all the other chaos marines got the benefit as well... (Used to be that Plague Marines got true grit iff the squad was a multiple of 7, not all chaos space marines get the effect regardless) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2366839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the akratic Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 All of my grey hunters are the old school metal ones, so they are only carrying the bolter. However, my main army is a deathguard force of all plaguemarines - who also carry the same weapon combo. For them, I have them each with a chainsword in one hand a bolter in the other. Since they had true grit before, i just say that they are skilled enough to use the bolter as if it was a bolt pistol. Seems to make sense, they have the same statline. I don't think anyone would expect each model to be literally modeled with every piece of wargear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2366916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Another quick question along the same lines. How is everyone handling this from a modeling aspect? Are you actually modeling all three weapons onto the grey hunter? Is it necessary to do so for game play? Because all three weapons (and Frag & Krak grenades) come standard, you don't have to worry about how you model them. Just make sure that they aren't modeled with something they aren't supposed to have, and also ensure that you do show any optional unit upgrades, like special weapons and special close combat weapons. For example, in one of my Grey Hunter packs I have five Marines modeled with just the Boltguns shown, two with just Meltaguns shown, two with Bolt Pistol and Chainswords, and the final Marine with a Boltgun and Power Fist. Thus all optional unit upgrade weapons are shown, while the rest reflect a mixture of what they come with standard. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2366989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Another quick question along the same lines. How is everyone handling this from a modeling aspect? Are you actually modeling all three weapons onto the grey hunter? Is it necessary to do so for game play? With my Iron Wolves I just model a few weapons but with my next Space Wolf army (yes I'm crazy!) I will be modeling all weapons and grenades, because I want to instead of being out of necessity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/192750-question-on-wargear/#findComment-2366994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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