Brother Nihm Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ armour save? If so, How would you 'mesh' them into your existing lists and strategy? In my case I would consider using them in my Slaanesh lists as a fire-and-forget hard hitting tar-pit unit. Charging them across the field to lock down/deny enemy specialist units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroplane Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would field them if they cost 30 pt, had a 4+ invulnerable, WS 8, base 3 attacks, power weapons, beast, and fleet. Oh wait, the model is complete rubbish... Nope. I wouldn't field them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ save? If so, How would you 'mesh' them into your existing lists and strategy? In my case I would consider using them in my Slaanesh lists as a fire-and-forget hard hitting tar-pit unit. Charging them across the field to lock down/deny enemy specialist units. Ooo that might make them more useful although it would also be nice if they didn't count as KP as even if they do kill stuff they seem to die at some point, but I guess a 4+ save might actually keep them alive. I'm sure in my 1kson army (I generally try to spawn people rather than take a unit) they would help provide a bit of speed and distract some of the oppositions units while my slower 1ksons get into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I probably would. The spawn i create through gift of chaos usually do pretty well for me, but not well enough for me to consider buying them at their current cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceleris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Used to run a number of them in my old LatD list (using the old multiheaded, multi-legged - T5 and 3+ save (at 20 pts) made them an excellent choice. Double the cost and without a save is a pain but I do still use them occasionally. If they had an inv save I'd probably stick a bunch in the list and with Brother N's suggested set-up I'd use a few. What I'd drop are a few marines from some of my line squads (which are 10 strong usually) to have a bunch of large based gribbly things runing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ armour save? If so, How would you 'mesh' them into your existing lists and strategy? I think I'd use them with those changes. They are more affordable and won't instantly die off from multiple Fearless wounds. I'd be most tempted to run them alongside my Defilers, hopefully have them screen the walker from nasty things with Power Fists or block a rampaging MC who wants to get a little too close. Probably take them in pairs, 60 points for decent tarpit unit with a cool model works for me. EDIT: 5000th post! Looks like I spend way too much time talking about plastic army men. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWinds Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would field them if they were 20pts a piece, 2 wounds, with a 3+ save. Oh wait that was their old statline <_< . Who thought they would be popular with double the points cost and easier to kill? We won't list names, you all know who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 If they had t5 and FnP , then yes as tar pit units . otherwise they just die too fast . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 No I hate models which I cant control. Same thing why I absolutely hate Lash too, in this case the other player even moves my models, thats even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sandbot Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Even then its a no. SnP is already a pain for me to deal with when all of my troops have it (and for them its a mixed blessing). A SnP assault unit at 30 pts is something I really don't need. imo, SnP has to be removed, stats down a bit, then make them cost 5 pts and some stupid crazy special rule to make them more flavorful than just "Mindless". EDIT: Actually now that I look back and think on this, all I really described was a cultist with s4 T4 and D6 in cc. Maybe 10 pts then just because they would be 3 points less than a lesser daemon to accommodate their inability to deep strike and lack of invuln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I would field them if they were like those in the eye of terror codex.. Controlable, 3+ armour save and 20 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Just to recap, we're talking about a 'theoretical' unit with 2-7 attacks per model (on the charge) at strength 5, a 4+ armour save, Toughness 5 and 3 wounds. I think that you guys are right though, their low ini, WS coupled with Mindless AND SnP makes them too expensive even at 30 points/model. The only good thing they would have going for them is the Beast Assault move, the high number of wounds and increased toughness. 20 points feels right & is more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seregon Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Kinda makes you wonder what the heck they were thinking when they decided on the current stats of the abominations.. 20 pts for the above would actually make them worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ armour save? no, because I still don't like the models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ armour save? no, because I still don't like the models Well, you could make up your own models you do like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ armour save? no, because I still don't like the models Well, you could make up your own models you do like. a green stuff blob with arms coming out of it........oh wait thats the official design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 They cost 30 points each and had a 4+ armour save? no, because I still don't like the models Well, you could make up your own models you do like. a green stuff blob with arms coming out of it........oh wait thats the official design. Nothing prevents you from coming up with a better idea though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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