Coverfire Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I have a 1,000 point battle organised next week verses Chaos Demons (Nurgle) and I thought I would ask what I should expect. I don't know what my opponent has but I know he doesn't have many options and one of the options he doesn't have is a Soul Grinder. So what can I expect and what should I use to counter anything thrown against me? I had a rough draft of: Rune Priest #1 - Chooser of the Slain, Wolf Tail Talisman, Murderous Hurricane, Living Lightning, Saga of the Beastslayer Rune Priest #2 - Chooser of the Slain, Wolf Tail Talisman, Master of the Runes, Jaws of the World Wolf, Tempest's Wrath x2 Grey Hunters, x6 Standard, x1 MoTW, x1 Powerweapon,Wolf Banner, x1 Plasmagun, Rhino x2 Vindicators Without the threat of the Soul Grinder, I thought it should be safe to bunch up. I will use Tempest's Wrath to limit how close he can deploy to me, then try to cut him down with bolter fire, the Vindicator Demolisher Cannons and Psychic Powers. Watch reaches me will be chopped into little pieces... simple but should be effective. I was thinking of swapping out the vindicators for Landspeeders but I thought I would find out if there is anything I should know about the Chaos Demons of Nurgle before I decide on anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 That list looks pretty good.. Drop Master of Runes though.. complete and utter point sink. You only need 1 Chooser; so with those 60 points, buy more Marine bodies and get Dozer Blades for your Vindicators. ^_^ Oh, and keep the Vindies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Agreed. Also, you must have different equipment on the RPs. I'd suggest something capable of handling GUOs and DPs. If you get charged by something with T6, you're going to be in trouble. Are you forgetting to list a unit? It doesn't look like you have 1000 points there to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Are you bookish and enjoy reading for a time? Do you have a nice padded seat so your bottom wont get fatigued? If yes, then I may be of some assistance by showing you this link; ^_^ HERE BE DAEMONS :) The baddies have written up a list to help their craven converts :) So now you know their strengths, according to our fellow B&Cites, you are forewarned and thus forearmed :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 If he plays Nurgle than Jaws should be on all Rune Priests. Nurgle has lower Iniative on all except Daemonprinces . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Niceee.. Cheers for the link.. although I almost think I want to make a demon army myself now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 The -ONLY- reson to use a pure Nurgle list is a special character that he can stick in a nurgle unit. This units will moast likly be an objectice camper plaguebearer who will keep as far away from your vindicators as it posible can. A Nurgle themed army is very bad, with the exeption of that character. For each person he kills all of his nurgle units grow stronger and at 10 or 15 kills it will be insane. He will moast likely use demon princes to achieve this since everything else in his army is to slow to move. So just deploy in a huge blob and you will instantly winn. (Moast likly.) I doubt you need 2 rune priests. Just have one who can cast jaws and tempest wrath. The rest is overkill. Moast likly you will get first turn. Welcome it. If you cast the tempest wrath you will completli cripple his deployment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 In addition to "the -ONLY- reason" to use a pure Nurgle force, he might be doing so for fluff reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Yes there is fluff, but he would be better of with plague marines. I whole hartedly suport fluff but a pure nurgle list is just very very very bad. The Nurgle demon list is so weak that Coverfire will feel like he is playing solitair. Especialy with 2 vindicators and the rune priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Rune Priest #1 - Chooser of the Slain, Wolf Tail Talisman, Murderous Hurricane, Living Lightning, Saga of the Beastslayer Rune Priest #2 - Chooser of the Slain, Wolf Tail Talisman, Master of the Runes, Jaws of the World Wolf, Tempest's Wrath x2 Grey Hunters, x6 Standard, x1 MoTW, x1 Powerweapon,Wolf Banner, x1 Plasmagun, Rhino x2 Vindicators I would go with this instead: Rune Priest 1: Chooser, Murderous Hurricane, Living Lighting Rune Priest 2: Jaws of the World Wolf, Tempest's Wrath 2 Grey Hunters: MoTW, Melta or Plasma Gun with Rhino and a power fist, make them 9 strong 2 Vindicators Elite Inquisitor and 2 mystics roughly costs about 32 points, Get the one from the Demon Hunters. Fill in the rest of the points with leftovers...if you can perhaps add another Grey Hunter squad and lower each to 2 eight man and 1 nine man squad with 3 Wolf Guard with Combi Meltas and power fists, if anything power fists. 3 points for an extra attack is sweet. Then setup in a corner if he gives you first turn, on turn 1 cast Temptest and dare him to land demons within range of the power and the Inquisitor with 2 mystics allowing a unit to shoot for free (usually a Vindicator for his troops and a plasma gun and Rune Preist with Living Lighting otherwise). A typical Nurgle list will have these elements: Plague Bearers (2-3 units) 1 Greater Demon of Nurgle and either the Tallyman or two Herlads Sprinkle in a few Nurgle Demon Princes with wings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 lots and lots of rune priests? well 2 atleast with jotww and lots of high strength weapons to ignore FNP. Make sure that when you assualt or shoot a unit. make sure you kill it. Because they will generally ahve epidermus who increases nurgle people to crazy levels for each wounds caused by a model with mark of nurgle. It can go to a point where nurgling bases, like ripper swarms, have power weapons and wound on 2s......... Mark of nurgle daemon princes are a pain in the ass. thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbob Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 My good friend plays all Nurgle demons and I've found that land speeders are difficult for him to deal with. Meltas and missiles hit hard against his high toughness and the meltas get around annoying FNP while being fast enough that he can never catch them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I personaly think 2 rune priests is a lott. One with JOTWW for his greater demons and with tempest wrath you can sit there looking snug. 2 vindicators is nice but a pack of long fangs for hos demons prince would also be recomended. (vindicators do not realy scare MC's.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2297979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Niceee.. Cheers for the link.. although I almost think I want to make a demon army myself now! :lol: -_- :yuck: :sick: . . . :lol: No worries, though I'm a bit worried about you now :lol: *I think that's why the Harlequins practically never let anyone into the Black Library! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2298350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I just played a game today vs chaos daemons. He had 3 units of Bloodletters. Khorne Prince. 3 Flamers. Ku'Gath. 1000 points. Ku'Gath is a beast. So hard to kill. I did not give my Rune Priest Jaws. Big Mistake. Take Jaws on both Priests. My Dreadnoughts were my all stars. They tied up all of his Bloodletters units. Mostly because I got the charge on them. What is relevant in this is that Daemons are fearless. If you can tie them up with dreadnoughts because most daemons lack the strength to take him out. Wish I could be of more help. I just have experience with Ku'Gath. You need Jaws to kill this guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2298358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Plasma, Plasma is what you need to know against nurgle. Why? Because AP 2 removes their feel no pain save- wich is on EVERY model. *sighs*. It also wounds on a 2+. Your plasmarifles and plasma pistols will make their weight in gold, everyone else will have a rough time of it compared to most forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2298511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power Fist Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Your main worry is if he decides to bring one or more Nurgle-marked Daemon Princes with wings. I would be very, very afraid, if he does. Because if he's smart, it also has Breath of Chaos, and a flying template that kills your models with relative impunity is a severe pain in the tail. Also, I know in my own Nurgle Daemons, I also have Breath on my GUOs. How pure is his "pure" Nurgle army? My own is "mostly pure," as I use a mad bucketload of Fiends. The addition of Flamers can also ruin your day. A Soul Grinder is the -least- of your worries with pure Nurgle... EDIT: The above advice is really good. I seriously hate plasma guns when I'm using my Daemons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193406-about-to-play-chaos-demons-nurgle/#findComment-2299101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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