Hfran Morkai Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 (It's for apocalypse so no points issues) Do you reckon it would be stretching it too far to have a Wolf Lord plus retinue in a Crusader with a Wolf Priest and Rune Priest attached? I like the idea from a fluff perspective as it could represent the Lord surrounding himself with advisers in certain areas the Wolf Priest offering the strength of Russ and blessings to the company's finest warriors whilst the Rune Priest shrouds the Lord from malicious intent with regards to psychic attacks. From a rules viewpoint the two characters would add some nice buffs (Fearless, Preferred enemy, Psychic protection, Force Weapon, Stormcaller) and would also add some nice attacks at initiative considering my Lord has thunder hammer and frost blade and his retinue all have TH/SS. But I don't want to do something that many would consider unlfuffy, I think it fits but I'd like some other people's opinions. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulweih Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I'd say, that's fine fluffwise. One could say that a WL would probably assign his priests to other parts of the battlefield to fullfill different roles. But sometimes a WL just knows where to strike and how exactly do we strike brother?Damn right, hard and unforgiving, trashing the foe utterly the way Leman would like it :o . I tend to play a "Hammer" similar to your suggestion in my Apo games, works fine for me. And in my opinion fits our chapter perfectly :P . The greatest heroes standing shoulder to shoulder, before, together charging down their throats!AAAARRRROOOO! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2299655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Fluff-wise it's fine, but game-wise would it be...wise? Characters are not cheap and are best served supporting your troops. But then again I'd love to see a unit like that in action! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2299687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Well Space Wolves don't have Command Squads like a C:SM Force, instead having huge retinues featuring Wolf Guard and Wolf Preists along with the other specialities. Theres more than one Wolf Priest, et al, per Great Company so you can just say your Wolf Lords companion is his closest advisor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2299690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffydd Fireclaw Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Well Space Wolves don't have Command Squads like a C:SM Force, instead having huge retinues featuring Wolf Guard and Wolf Preists along with the other specialities. Theres more than one Wolf Priest, et al, per Great Company so you can just say your Wolf Lords companion is his closest advisor. Actually all of the Priests and Dreadnought belong to the Great Company of the Great Wolf and are spread around as he sees fit. But I see it being very fluffy, SW realise that sometimes, to secure victory you need to use daring gambles, which putting so many senior members of the Chapter in 1 place is. I've used something similar before (Ragnar, Logan, Ulrik, Njarl + 5TDA WG charging out of a LRC to utterly annihilate not only several squads of chaos marines, but a baneblade, a summoned greater daemon and 2 squads of summoned daemons, it was sickening the amount of damage they did!) EDIT: Worked out that the Uber HQ choice of doom (with the Wolf Guard being Arjac, 2 FB, 2 TH&SS and 1 AC&PF) put out 67 attacks on the first charge (+3 due to Insane Bravado, +1 Due to Living Legend), with 30 FB attacks (All of Grimnars were FB not PF), 14 TH, 6 PF, 9 FW and 8 PW... The enemy's squad was screwed the moment the LRC's Ramp opened. "Oh, your squad is dead, consolidate behing your stunned Baneblade... Oh, my turn again, kill the super Heavy consolidate into cover right infront of your squads against the table edge, by the way, did you notice me outflank those tanks over there? You can't run anywhere..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2299747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Fluff-wise it's fine, but game-wise would it be...wise? Characters are not cheap and are best served supporting your troops. But then again I'd love to see a unit like that in action! I am going to have to agree with Night Runner here. It is not really a wise choice sending all your senior members running with each other. I would always break them up to have some versatility. I mean Ragnar having preferred enemy is great but.....15 bloodclaws with preferred enemy is better. Rune priest you could throw with anything but i would put him with a grey hunter squad to give them at least 1 invuln, or storm caller. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2300018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Fluff-wise it's fine, but game-wise would it be...wise? Characters are not cheap and are best served supporting your troops. But then again I'd love to see a unit like that in action! I am going to have to agree with Night Runner here. It is not really a wise choice sending all your senior members running with each other. I would always break them up to have some versatility. I mean Ragnar having preferred enemy is great but.....15 bloodclaws with preferred enemy is better. Rune priest you could throw with anything but i would put him with a grey hunter squad to give them at least 1 invuln, or storm caller. Trust me, I don't have three Heroes at 10,000 points, I will be running about 2000 points of HQ units so I don't think I need to worry about other packs lacking much needed punch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2300048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I personally love the idea. I can see a bunch of Space Wolves who have fought together for centuries going "Oh, yeah, it's gonna be just like old times! Hop in, we've got a full keg of Wolf Whiz in the Land Raider for after the fight..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2300650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiltedMarine Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I personally love the idea. I can see a bunch of Space Wolves who have fought together for centuries going "Oh, yeah, it's gonna be just like old times! Hop in, we've got a full keg of Wolf Whiz in the Land Raider for after the fight..." I have to agree with this outlook. And in Apocalypse, it makes perfect sense. Planet-shattering battle to determine the fate of a sector or whole Segmentum? Check. Massively OTT threat to the existence of Humanity/pick your alien race/the physical universe? Check. Pack of high-ranking badasses together to strike with ultimate ass-kickery just where the galaxy needs them most? Double check. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2302478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshrug Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Yeah, I definitely think it works, fluff-wise. In my RP-ier moments, I like to think that there's a rapport between my WGBL, my Rune Priest, and their various Wolf Guard subordinates. Usually I choose to spread them out for strategic reasons, but I love the idea of having them back to back, kicking ass like heroes in many mythologies are wont to do. -Stormshrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2302561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshrug Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Huh, seem to have double-posted somehow. Whoops. -Stormshrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/193575-how-feasible-fluff-wise/#findComment-2302562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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