whitewolfmxc Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 So the codex has leaked and facts are throwing themselves out in the open about our BA brothers , what did you guys think about it ? Think its finally time someone is worthy to be our foe now even if their our brothers ? XD well join the discussion here if you want to know more details link link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSkaven Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Mephiston is an absolute MONSTER!!!!! 7WS 6S 6T 5W 4A Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 got me thinking what us wolves got to killl that monster XD ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 World wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 got me thinking what us wolves got to killl that monster XD ? Anything with Saga of the Beastslayer. If the rumours are true. I'm looking more forward to fighting alongside our brothers in red than fighting with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 World wolf. but 1/6 chances.................. got me thinking what us wolves got to killl that monster XD ? Anything with Saga of the Beastslayer. If the rumours are true. I'm looking more forward to fighting alongside our brothers in red than fighting with them. Yes im happy that they get a good codex , makes us either have a trust worthy brother in arms or a worthy foe XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaguewolf Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 as a wise man said: BRING IT ON!!!!!! (joe from family guy) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 World wolf. but 1/6 chances.................. And? Ive got other things up my sleeves, like termis and that wolf lord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 One thing that kind upsets me a little is , although SW is the best known non codex chapter , we only have a few non codex units (wolves , guys on wolves) and not to mention we only got 2 new units (lone wolves and thunder wolves) , but BA on the other hand is all over the place , Matt who wrote the codex seems to go on to its trend on the SM codex for adding units just because he wants to , kind sad to see BA got treated like this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Take Arjac to Mephiston's face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Take Arjac to Mephiston's face. but i doubt arjak will have a chance hitting back............. I've read the codex. In fact I play tested 8 normal games, 6 kill teams and a clash of heros with it today. I've practically memorized the dam thing. For starters, that Stat line of Meph is actually not his full potential. Meph is only Sr 6 base. With his powers, and a certain inexpensive elite you will be running anyways, his combat line looks like this: Str10 -> WS7 -> I8. (2+, Feel No pain). And a whopping 10 attacks possible on a charge. Yep. 10 Force Weapon Attacks, hitting on 3. Wounding on 2. Transfixing Gaze: Units in assault with Meph take a Leadership test at -4. If they fail, he gets warptime against them. The Nightbringer almost got to hit back today. As of April 8th, unit to unit, I can confidently say that he will be able to kill any unit or hero 1v1. Generally before they hit back, at most in two rounds of combat (before they hit back the second time). I don't know what I can post on stats, so I'll just talk about rules for a bit simply to calm myself down. (Ya, Its that good.) Death Company pay 6 points over normal marines and gain 5 special rules. The Grappel is amazing, twice today an Immobilized Furioso pulled a mortal combat and "Get'over here!"'d a tank into CC. Furiosos can take normal Dread Weaps or (Blood Talons) Lightning claws which give you an instant attack for every unsaved wound you do (which can also give you more attacks). My friend and I laughed as one killed its way through a 20 man Stealer' Squad in one round of combat. Visualize "Om nom nom nom" in walker form, and you've got it. The Stormraven. Ah.... where to begin. Twin linked things = MM, Plasma Cannon, Lascannon, HB, AC. Blood Missles. Fast, Skimmer. It is immune to the extra d6 on Meltas. 12 Armor all around. It can carry 12 guys and an underslung dread. Its an Assault Vehicle. Even if it has moved flat out, models can deep strike out. (And it has a locator beacon for xx points, so they don't scatter.) Dante's rules are disappointing. If anything, he feels worse than before. To be fair, this is offset by the fact that every other HQ old and new is on some new kind of steroid. (They reflect this in points, Dante is more expensive than before and is still one of the cheapest ones) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Or Lukas, last laugh :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 One thing that kind upsets me a little is , although SW is the best known non codex chapter , we only have a few non codex units (wolves , guys on wolves) and not to mention we only got 2 new units (lone wolves and thunder wolves) , but BA on the other hand is all over the place , Matt who wrote the codex seems to go on to its trend on the SM codex for adding units just because he wants to , kind sad to see BA got treated like this Our only codex units are our tanks, i fail to see how you counted so badly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Their codex quite insane(i was reading it in-store earlier today), but I'm a bit more envious of the number of miniatures GW's putting out for them. Four or five new IC minis? Two new boxes? On the other hand, one or two of those new ICs are from successor chapters so its forgivable. Meanwhile, the biggest new edition to our codex is a unit that we have to either convert heavily to put on the table or buy from any company besides GW. Things that make you go hmm... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Wait- you know GW will make thunderwolf mounts, the new BA stuff is jus slowing it down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard12 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 could the fact BA's are getting so much love be linked to the fact we've had a darn PDF for some time. A PDF darn it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 One thing that kind upsets me a little is , although SW is the best known non codex chapter , we only have a few non codex units (wolves , guys on wolves) and not to mention we only got 2 new units (lone wolves and thunder wolves) , but BA on the other hand is all over the place , Matt who wrote the codex seems to go on to its trend on the SM codex for adding units just because he wants to , kind sad to see BA got treated like this Our only codex units are our tanks, i fail to see how you counted so badly. i think you misunderstood my meaning , i meant a unit that has a different use that the codex chapter already has a unit for , for say our grey hunters are our tactical marines , long fangs are our devastators , while the BA already has those codex units (or equivalent) they have heaps more non codex units , death company / death company dreds / Lib dred / Vets / the flyer / guards with wings / predator types etc could the fact BA's are getting so much love be linked to the fact we've had a darn PDF for some time. A PDF darn it Haha , they sure do deserve the love for that darn PDF decision that was made XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2305990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
player21 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I shall enjoy kicking the blood angels a$$. Then replace their red grail with a stein. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokafort Stonewolf Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 See my post in the blood angel codex thread. I would say between this and the nid book we're pretty close to the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 World wolf. but 1/6 chances.................. And? Ive got other things up my sleeves, like termis and that wolf lord. If you can do a couple things first. A ) Stay alive for the first round of fighting. B ) Keep your steele and not run away after losing combat (because, yes you will lose combat) C ) Get thunder Hammer hits on him or kill him on your turn. D ) not get hit by that mask dealy sending your WS to 1. @ whitewolfmxc: Arjac does have a better chance then even a Lord to kill him. Throwing that hammer to lower his initiative is more then gods grace, but the if you don't kill him, he will most likely kill you. he has 5 wounds and arjac only has 2, against his 4 attacks. All in all. Not to be taken lightly at all. He is in line to become the next nightbringer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 This thread will be locked unless we are going to discuss counter tactics to the new BA rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Officials have Spoken. So I think i will have to bring some more lascannons then i would normally bring. I would like to shoot meph way before i close combat that guy anyday. Seriously not looking forward to CC with him. I think the death company will be a tough act to follow, but wolf guard can beat them no problem. The only thing i am worried about with them are feel no pain and relentless, but feel no pain doesn't work with no armor save. so termies are go. Logan Grimnar will be in any army that goes up against Seth and meph. Not overly worried about the regular chapter master. He got bumped down in this dex i think. So my Wolf Lord should handle him. ( or use ragnar if you want some bits left to feed the wolves back at base.) Long fangs..... Lots of them for meph..... seriously. close combating him is a terrible idea. oh man i totally forgot about dreadnought play. BA's will be using them and the baals all the time, So even more lascannons are needed. at least meltas work on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSkaven Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Furiuso librarian Dreads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why dont WE have rune priest dreads?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Furiuso librarian Dreads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why dont WE have rune priest dreads?? Cause our Rune priests are smarter and don't die as often :lol: When has this thing been leaked? We are not talking about that could-be-BA-dex which appeared a month ago, are we? Any clues for googling, as so far I've been unable to locate anything more up-do-date? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmichi Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Someone mentioned that Mephiston went toe to toe with the Nightbringer and wiped him out in a single round of combat? How is that not overpowered? Vent deleted, let this part stay because it's quote. *wipes sweat from brow* :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194024-finally-someone-worth-fighting/#findComment-2306328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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