Verseau Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 When the first time SW minis come out in pre order, i am so WOW n captivated by the sprue. but when BA minis out, i am shocked, BA new minis are sweet, but i still far love more of SW minis. i am quite disappointed with this, since i am already saving a quite of money in anticipation to buy the BA new minis, to convert them into a SW. the only thing in BA new minis which make me want to buy is their wrist boltgun, and their 2handed weapon. maybe i'll just buy a box of sanguinary guard only to take their weapon, and spend the rest of my saving to buy more SW minis. sigh... quite dissapointing, for i have wait for this BA minis to get WOW again, but it didn't note: that's only my opinion, BUT what you guys think about the new BA minis ??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 sanguinary guard is pants.,,.......... power armor that looks like muscle ? Sorry although SW are known to be buffed they arent exactly Gym rats who the Governator ................ the other units how ever , i like the death company models , and the new chaplain they just look evil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 We got a much better deal with the super flexible 10 man wolf box. Plus they are much better sculpts (weird scout heads aside) Plus we have belt fed assault cannon. Real men take belt fed assault cannons, not girly winged jump packs. So we get a better financial deal, and we got no thunderwolves - they get no stormraven. The nippled armor concerns me, but the big axe is nice and would make a suitable frost axe. I dont like the death mask heads on the sang guard. The DC are very sweet, good job GW. Plus a cool lemartes has finally put a steak through the decaying corpse of Mike Mcveys dabble into sculpting. Sanguinor looks silly, granted we have He-Man on a Disney wolf, but he is in a distinctly silly pose - "shoot me with your biggest gun while I hover here" Astorath the grim looks a lot like Ozzy. He could be swinging a big guitar back there. Mephiston model looks amazing in retro 2D... * With those stats...what model wouldnt!* - sound of thousands of dusty Mephiston models finally seeing daylight and open wallets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I'll be scouring eBay for bitz instead of buying the whole kits. I dig some of their CC weapons and those wrist mounted bolters are just too cool. Aside from that...well I think they're pretty and unsuited for SW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Ill be buying at least one of each box. I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. With enough clipping and addition of wolf bits I'm sure astorath can be turned into a great lone wolf he's model seems perfect for the role. But once again its the weapons all those two handed weapons and wrist mounted bolters and inferno (combi melta bits) and hand flamers (combi flamer bits) Also I think the DC box comes with a rapier which is perfect for the civilised wolf blade member (whose name I can't remember for the life of me) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenger Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 seth has potential as a ragnar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
milmaa Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 seth has potential as a ragnar ohh how right you are :rolleyes: looks good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki73 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I think they are pretty sweet. BUT....the wings keep reminding me of Victoria's secret. Which.... in itself is not bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verseau Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. who's you gonna play that againts with ??? i dont think many player allowed that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I think they are pretty sweet. BUT....the wings keep reminding me of Victoria's secret. Which.... in itself is not bad. Oh nosssssssss , hope they never name a character with the model like "Heidi Klum " XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapturowski Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 seth has potential as a ragnar ohh how right you are :wacko: looks good! Yeah, after seeing DV8's great Ragnar conversion that was my first thought too when I saw Seth. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I can just see death company models being used for everything, i mean if they were 10 man- they could be used for tacs, devis asms an all. I love the WG terminators, after 3 boxes of em you got to :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. who's you gonna play that againts with ??? i dont think many player allowed that. If he's using blood angels, painted Space Wolves colours, then no one can stop him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Actually, I really like the golden guys. They are great for what I had planned as a "Roman"-themed DIY-chapter. Death Company and many of the new ICs are also really nice. I think I like the BA-models quite a bit more then the SW ones. Then again, my entire SW army is built from WoC from fantasy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Gets you wondering what they will pull off when the Black Templars get their new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2309989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bareserker Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 There's a whole lot of "Itchin ,Bitchin & Twitchin" going on over on the B.A pages ! It seems they have a lot of Marmite models ( you either luv em or ate em ). What people on this site dont seem too realise is casting techniques in 28 mm metal limits how dynamic a model can be. Hence the reason for mediocre poses. Another sad fact is G.W. sculptors have LITTLE, OR NO ANATOMICAL training.They learn from their more senior sculptors,which means they learn a lot of mistakes as well. Finally Marine armour does not lend it's self to dynamic poses ! Yep I know thats a shock but its true . When G.W, gave Marine details to the people who did "Dawn of War " ,their designer's really struggled to get the Marines into fighting and action poses. The biggest problem was the massive shoulder armour. It makes raising your arm above horizontal extremely diificult. ( this info I hav'nt made up, got it fom G.W. management at the time. ) Here's the proof ! .....Take a long hard look at all Marine models, most with there arms up are anatomical FREAKS ! Check out the Chaplain/jumppack ,even the new B,A sergeant. Trace the bones and joints back, their arms come out of their rib cages ! I have proved the theory myself with my large scale Marines, they are a pig to get into action poses. THe2 best arm raised models are Azrael & Corbulo. the guy who sculpted them tipped the whole upper body & got away with it , though only just. P.S. I just checked out Astorath the grim,he's a freak as well ! Try the pose yourself in a mirror then check out were his arms come from...... his ribs ! Plastic is better coz they use 3 ups . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Some of the models are very nice, but I'm not that impressed. I really don't like the facially sculpted helmets and Astorath's armor is way to close to the suit used in Bram Stoker's Dracula at the beginning of the movie. And while I always thought they would look cool, now that I've seen them, I'm not a big fan of the winged jump pack either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 seth has potential as a ragnar ohh how right you are :P looks good! Yeah, after seeing DV8's great Ragnar conversion that was my first thought too when I saw Seth. <_< Seth still looks too much like Kor'sarro in that he seems to be striding forward, and not really running. Other than that, yea, it pretty much looks like my model in "Official GW" form. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Lemartes- I think he looks sweet. I mentioned him first because he is my favorite of the new BA models. I think he fits into the grim dark future of the 41st Milleneum very well. The detail is very cool too. Not the most dynamiz pose but whatever. Seth- I agree could be a cool ragnar conversion. (Maybe DV8 should convert one with this model too. So we can see can compare the two. :rolleyes: ) The Sanguinor- Looks really cool too. Might have to get him just to paint him. Astorath- I like the model. Very fine detail. Something does kind of run me the wrong way about it tho. Cannot put my finger on it. Sanguinary Guard- Same boat as the sanguinor. Really nice models. Death Company- Cool. Whatever. Overshadowed by the other models that came out but very nice detail. I am kind of jealous that they got such nice models for their characters. I think out Wolf Guard TDA equal their sanguinary guard in coolness. And we win the economy scale with our troop box vs their death company. I hope we do get a second wave of Ragnar and thunderwolves. Ragnar's current model is just out of date. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. who's you gonna play that againts with ??? i dont think many player allowed that. so no one will play my blood angels army if they arent painted red? in case you didnt understand though let me elaborate. i plan on using the blood angels codex to make a jump pack army. it will be based around sky claws since they suck in our book. the wings look nice and hopefully will look decent when combined with the space wolf pack box. also and if this is illegal let me know right off the bat please i plan on using the vanilla codex and khan with a captain for a swift claw bike army. they will also be painted in space wolf colours, or do i have to use white? i will have a blood claw army using the black templar codex as well as a logan wing using the dark angel codex. once again if painting my armies a different colour then what the codex suggests for certain armies then let me know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skambankt Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I like the new Blood Angels, but it's safe to say that the Space Wolves got a much better deal overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. who's you gonna play that againts with ??? i dont think many player allowed that. so no one will play my blood angels army if they arent painted red? in case you didnt understand though let me elaborate. i plan on using the blood angels codex to make a jump pack army. it will be based around sky claws since they suck in our book. the wings look nice and hopefully will look decent when combined with the space wolf pack box. also and if this is illegal let me know right off the bat please i plan on using the vanilla codex and khan with a captain for a swift claw bike army. they will also be painted in space wolf colours, or do i have to use white? i will have a blood claw army using the black templar codex as well as a logan wing using the dark angel codex. once again if painting my armies a different colour then what the codex suggests for certain armies then let me know. The space wolf codex is pretty cool too you know :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
milmaa Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Seth still looks too much like Kor'sarro in that he seems to be striding forward, and not really running. Other than that, yea, it pretty much looks like my model in "Official GW" form. DV8 Being quite new here, i had to do abit of searching for your conversion DV8, Awesome job by the way! There is a good likeness there, thats for sure :P I've already decided that after my Wolf Guard Battle Leader project, Ragnar/Seth could be next! With regard to the other characters; -The Sanguinor, nice looking model I'm just not sure about the pose. -Astorath, I really like this one too, and a really nice pain job on that axe from the GW boys and girls! -Sanguinary Guard, look great, love those wings. The weapons look very nice too. -Lemartes, not bad, again not a fan of the pose. -Death Company, nice job on them as well! So long as our Blood Angel friends are happy with them thats all that matters! Still, they have no wolves so we are just abit cooler than them ;) -Marty Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2310747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verseau Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. who's you gonna play that againts with ??? i dont think many player allowed that. If he's using blood angels, painted Space Wolves colours, then no one can stop him. i think he plan on using SW codex, only the skyclaws pack using BA codex. now do you think many players will allowed that ??? and on second thought i think i like the sanguinor, the pose is so HOLY !!!, i have the valkyrie profile resin, Lenneth with the same pose like the sanguinor, dont you think its just awesome. http://www.digitalmonkeybox.com/VlkryPrflLnnthSDCC08.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2311280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verseau Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 I do plan on using the ba codex for my sky claw army and I think the wings work great for a valkyre concept. who's you gonna play that againts with ??? i dont think many player allowed that. so no one will play my blood angels army if they arent painted red? in case you didnt understand though let me elaborate. i plan on using the blood angels codex to make a jump pack army. it will be based around sky claws since they suck in our book. the wings look nice and hopefully will look decent when combined with the space wolf pack box. also and if this is illegal let me know right off the bat please i plan on using the vanilla codex and khan with a captain for a swift claw bike army. they will also be painted in space wolf colours, or do i have to use white? i will have a blood claw army using the black templar codex as well as a logan wing using the dark angel codex. once again if painting my armies a different colour then what the codex suggests for certain armies then let me know. ok i am a little confused here, so which do you plan to use: 1. you use blood angels mini (not codex) as skyclaws pack, tactical squad mini (once again not the codex) and khan mini as a swiftclaw pack lastly using black templar mini as bloodclaw pack. then paint all of them space wolf color, and using SW codex rule. OR... 2. you use whatever mini, call your army space wolves, and then you use BA codex rule as your skyclaw pack vanilla marine codex rule for your swiftclaw pack and black templar codex rule for your bloodclaw pack. I think the answer will be: 1. YES, you can, and maybe if you can make it right, it will be awesome. 2. No no no, and i think it will be overpower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194256-ba-new-mini-compare-with-sw/#findComment-2311315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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