shaolin saiyan Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 what is the best squad to field ragnar with in a 2000 point game? i was thinking a ten man grey hunters squad because wolf guard get quite pricey points wise, but just want some advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Where will this squad be? If it is LR/variations I'd suggest Blood Claws - lots of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2311757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaolin saiyan Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 well at this moment im entirely a foot slogger army. i have a ten man grey hunters, 2 6 man gey hunters, 2 ten man blood claws, and 2 6 man long fangs. i also have enough wolf guard to split off into those squads. i also have njal and wolf priet in termie and power armor. so i have several options to work with but with limited mobility and realize this as a glaring weakness and looking for a few tips. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2311787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 well at this moment im entirely a foot slogger army. i have a ten man grey hunters, 2 6 man gey hunters, 2 ten man blood claws, and 2 6 man long fangs. i also have enough wolf guard to split off into those squads. i also have njal and wolf priet in termie and power armor. so i have several options to work with but with limited mobility and realize this as a glaring weakness and looking for a few tips. Then probably right now Ragnar does not fit into Your current list :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2311793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Id say with the list your running you need to invest in swiftclaws and/or landspeeders first. But if you were going to take him? A 15 strong pack of fenrisian wolves would do best I think- and cheaply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2311801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 aye he doesnt fit. for his points he should have had at least a 3++ and eternal warrior but alas no eternal warrior its not very smart for him to be walking. a combo that is dead killy that i liked was ragnar, 3-4 wolf guard with power weapons and a crusader. ragnar is certain to take down a few on his own, and I 5 Str 5 with 16-24 attacks on the charge is quick strong. too strong in my opinion. its best to take ragnar his wolves crusader and maybe 3-4 vanilla wolf guard. that way you dont outright kill your opponent in your assault phase but in his. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2312506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear da Lamentation Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Interesting. Most people seem to want Ragnar in a landraider. Are there any viable lists with him in it and no landraiders? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2312576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 i dont think so. the lack of 3++ and eternal warrior really hurts him with that cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2312593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaolin saiyan Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 so i tried him in my list, and you were right about him not working well in my list the lack of transport kept him from being effective. as a whole i think my army was not as effective as it could be without transports and got bogged down in the middle but so did my opponent so it ended in a draw for my firt match with my wolves. that bein said is he truly only effective out of a landraider type transport, or would a drop pod work for him? im thinking from my experiance tonight that a landraider would be the way to go because the drop pod would leave him to exsposed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2313425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 A drop pod could work- he has a 4++, and hes running with a squad, he really isnt that fragile at all. Its just easier to avoid a footslogging squad, so its hard to get him where you want him- in CC. That being said, if your using DPs your going to want to use a number of them, with fast support elements like scouts, speeders, bikes, or rhino squads to support them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2314015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumdin Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I use Ragnar in a LRC with 10 grey hunters and 1 Wolf Guard w/ TH I am pretty successful with him and he always makes his points back. But again I have to be careful not to get him in base contact with a PF or TH in Close combat. But Like Grey said you could use a 15 fen wolves + Ragnar but add 2 wargear fen wolves + 1 WG w/ SS Gives you roughly 18 models plus for about 180 pts to accompany Ragnar across the board But realize if anyone has ever played against him, once they see him on the board he will be shot at, and if you drop pod him he will take alot of fire and probably get charged. It all depends on your strategy. For me he works but I have a heavy mech list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2314065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 How do you intend to put the WG w/ SS into that unit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2314086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 well if your going to dp do it en masse. you send ragnar and squad with only one drop pod dakka dakka dakka dakka! if you must do so. make sure you drop at least one dread with him and hopefully two other squads. so for best bets were looking at 7 drop pods for a good effect. if your using cheap long fangs just give them pods or some other small squad for just this reason. an enemy will likely kill 1 or 2 of your dropped units but getting rangar and gang a dread or more will cause distress and panic in many lines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2314090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumdin Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Ack, My bad WG cant join fen wolves. I am dumb. okay one less model. Good point Grey, so use to them joining everything except skyclaws, didnt even think they couldnt join fen wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194393-need-a-tip/#findComment-2314098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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