Magnus Thane Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 A few questions for you all on this game: - Is the Black Legion portrayed as competent or just run-of-the-mill villains? - Has the game been greatly improved? - How much content is there and is it worthwhile to buy the regular DoW2? - How much longterm fun is there to be had multiplayer-wise? - What's your final evaluation of this game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2328782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Vulkus Dorn Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 My game crashed on me too when I beat Ulkar but I got some instant update from Steam and it fixed mine. I beat him using FC armed with the anti Chaos sword and named plasma pistol, Tarkus and Avitus in TDA, T had a Hvy Flmer, A had AC and CML, and Jonus with a full heal proc set up. Worked like a charm. I placed sentry guns to grab his attention and would pound the piss out of him. pull back, heal up, and repeat. a few artillery strikes here and there helped too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2328785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 A few questions for you all on this game: - Is the Black Legion portrayed as competent or just run-of-the-mill villains? - Has the game been greatly improved? - How much content is there and is it worthwhile to buy the regular DoW2? - How much longterm fun is there to be had multiplayer-wise? - What's your final evaluation of this game? -Mixed. Shown as deadly enemies, but not the most disciplined force. - Gameplay is essentially the same, though there are new items, units, and abilities. - There is enough content to be worth buying. The game is a stand alone, you do not need the original. - I don't play multiplayer, so I can't answer that. - Pretty good. I wish it were longer and polished up a little more, but it is a respectable finished product. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2328883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 A few questions for you all on this game: - Is the Black Legion portrayed as competent or just run-of-the-mill villains? - Has the game been greatly improved? - How much content is there and is it worthwhile to buy the regular DoW2? - How much longterm fun is there to be had multiplayer-wise? - What's your final evaluation of this game? -competent to be sure but in some missions their selfish attitude (as in every single on of them wants the most glory) shows alot. theyre not very prone to work together, which makes some missions very very easy. -mostly the same just with new wargear and a new "corruption" system that basicly alters the story in some places. people give hissy fits when you dont take them to the mall or buy them an ice cream cone for example(dont want to spoil anything :P ) -content kept me happy for a few days playing several hours at a time. something between 10 and 15 hours worth i guess. however if you only play single player there are lots of ways to do missions. with regards to the orignal dow2, if you want to know the story before cr play the game. you wont miss much though cause the entire dow2 camp[aign is summed up before cr begins...you can continue playing a previous campaign which is nice i guess. comes down to how much you want to invest in this i guess. both games are fun, CR 2 is just newer and shinier -tons! lots of new units and upgrades, chaos as race etc. -fun fun game! specialy multiplayer. a shame its not a liquid/powder that i could snort/drink or otherwise id be having it 24/7 :D :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 A few questions for you all on this game: - Is the Black Legion portrayed as competent or just run-of-the-mill villains? - Has the game been greatly improved? - How much content is there and is it worthwhile to buy the regular DoW2? - How much longterm fun is there to be had multiplayer-wise? - What's your final evaluation of this game? -Black Legion seems mostly competent, although in some missions some of their members seem more crazy than professional. -The game has improved, but alot is simply building on top of what was already good. The single player missions are much better, longer and more involved rather than quick 'drop pod in, move to boss, kill boss.' The single player campaign is also cool because things will change depending on your morality choices (it's not so deep as an rpg or anything, but it's neat). You'll notice changes in dialogue, and there are about five or six endings depending on where on the scale you finish. There is also another very significant plot detail that unfolds differently depending on certain actions. -The singleplayer content is pretty significant, it's a whole new campaign and it's pretty fun. You'll probably get at least two playthroughs from it (pure and chaotic), and there's alot of new wargear that leans differently on the morality scale. -Multiplayer is basically just improved on what was already there. There's the whole new faction to play, and every army got at least one new unit to play with. If you enjoyed The Last Stand mode there are two new heroes to pick. There are also new maps and environments (ice world and space hulk) anda new free-for-all game mode. Basically, if you enjoyed DOW2's multiplayer this will probably make you happy, and if you didn't this isn't going to change your mind. -Overall I give the game an A. The single player fixes alot of the issues from the original and presents a pretty cool story. As I said, if you liked the original you'll probably like this, if the original didn't do it for you this isn't going to either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Thane Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Hmmm sounds like the BL are not reflected very IC. Sounds like they're just out to backstab each other. And though there is undoubtably a lot of rivalry in each Legion, I have trouble believing this behaviour would be a constant. I'll have to ponder wether to buy it. In any case i'm not getting it until cheap packs come out and a third addon is planned for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I will say that listening to the Black Legion lord (can't remember his name) taunt and insult the Blood Ravens was really enjoyable. If you don't buy the game, you can probably find some of the scenes on youtube. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 was his name arghast or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 That's it. Araghast the Pillager. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSarge Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Umm the Eye of Terror is a direct portal into the Warp. So yes, it is the Warp. Now you're just being stubborn. The center of the Eye of Terror is known as the byssos, a hole in the fabric of reality through which raw Chaos energy pours out. (a large hole into the warp) The Eye of Terror, is a region of space made up of a mixture of BOTH realspace and the warp. Time has no meaning and energy is indistinct, etc. The Eye is not the pure WARP SPACE that spacecraft navigate. When it is stated that something was sucked/transported into the warp, as in DoW2. One concludes said object to be within the warp. Where it will be ravaged be warp creatures, and torn apart by the maelstrom of psychic energies. Warp = Not, the far calmer region known as the Eye of Terror. I know 40k is a large universe that can confuse new comers, hopefully I made this one fact more clear. blackoption: Excuse me if my opinion of DoW2 is not all roses. EDIT - added The Warp @ Lexicanum.wiki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Holy moses, just finished the game myself ABADDON! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 One quick question for those who have completed the game: Is the traitor random or who is most corrupted by dark gods? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 One quick question for those who have completed the game: Is the traitor random or who is most corrupted by dark gods? Dunno, since I finished just once, but looks like that's the case (2nd option). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 That is what i was thinking, But I was wondering if anyone could disprove the second option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think if corruption is tied between two or more people it is random. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I believe it's whoever hits full corruption first. This has been the case with my last two playthroughs. If all squads remain pure it's always one particular character. Damn I need to figure out this spoiler button. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2329998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I'm pretty sure it's not who hit full corruption first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2330393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Can the force commander be the traitor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2330445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Can the force commander be the traitor? Not really... I mean, he is "you" and you are not going to fight, well, you. So as far I am concern, nope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2332555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Can the force commander be the traitor? I was going to post something but my internet ineptitude is not allowing me to use the spoiler cover up option. So I just pm'ed you some info. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2332607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 This is a spoiler [spoiler]This is how you make a spoiler[/spoiler] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2333246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon_Fodder_84 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I just finished the game yesterday and I quite enjoyed it. I loved doing the space hulk missions real S.H style(FC and all squads in Termie armour). I also like that they included more stuff from C:SM(lightning claws, Sternguard/Vanguard vets, meltas, lascannons). In regards to the traitor, I thought it was a little ridiculous that if all your squads are pure, the traitor is in actual fact the guy who works hardest to uncover the traitor. I would have thought that he would try and hide his own identity a bit better, instead of constantly telling you "I found another transmission from the traitor" or "To uncover the traitor's identity I need..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2334168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 This is a spoiler [spoiler]This is how you make a spoiler[/spoiler] Aha! Well that explains it, I was doing it backwards. Thanks. I really liked the Space Hulk missions, they were my favorite and had great atmosphere. I actually got Terminator armor access the mission before and made sure to play it with all Terminators. Now that's a video game that could use a modern update. Space Hulk the videogame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2334210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I just finished the game yesterday and I quite enjoyed it. I loved doing the space hulk missions real S.H style(FC and all squads in Termie armour). I also like that they included more stuff from C:SM(lightning claws, Sternguard/Vanguard vets, meltas, lascannons). In regards to the traitor, I thought it was a little ridiculous that if all your squads are pure, the traitor is in actual fact the guy who works hardest to uncover the traitor. I would have thought that he would try and hide his own identity a bit better, instead of constantly telling you "I found another transmission from the traitor" or "To uncover the traitor's identity I need..." I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks as much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2334520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 So true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/194412-chaos-rising/page/4/#findComment-2334569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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