Okay, so whats the deal here?

[Frontline989]

So we all love Grey Hunters. They rock. However Im always wondering if I should give them a power weapon or power fist and thinking to myself isn't it possibly a waste of points compared to Wolf Guard.

 

When is it tactially sound to give Grey Hunters a PW or PF over a Wolf Guard?

[The_Betrayed_Spacewolf]

never give the grey hunters powerfists. you get one attack and two on the charge. thats it. with that few attacks seriously you expect to kill a dreadnought or a carnifex with that? take a power weapon if you must or a motw. if you give them a wolf guard i suggest a powerfist then (two base attacks is better than one but not by much) seriously though let your long fangs take out the heavy stuff and keep the grey hunters for suicide runs on land raiders with double or single melta and killing troops (although twc are better at that)

[LoneSniperSG]

Are you sure? I found Fists to be a good investment on my Greys prior to the current Codex, and I haven't yet played with the new book.

[Mithril hound]

On the contrary, i dont love grey hunters. I field to bare bones squads of five, so i can have Bjorn and all those terminators.

[Grey Mage]

So we all love Grey Hunters. They rock. However Im always wondering if I should give them a power weapon or power fist and thinking to myself isn't it possibly a waste of points compared to Wolf Guard.

 

When is it tactially sound to give Grey Hunters a PW or PF over a Wolf Guard?

1) When your not putting a WG in the unit- I do this alot.

2) When you want a second SCCW in the squad, PWs being the best deal really.

3) When you have the extra points and want to increase their CC skills.

4) You realise its never a waste to ignore armor and double your strength.

 

Why? Because GHs are the mainstay of a normal SW force. They arent suicide troops. They arent tactical marines. They are the Great Company, and making sure they can handle everything the grim darkness of the future can throw at them is not only a good idea, its your duty as their wolf lord.

 

1 attack at str 8 is infinitely better than none at all.

[Wolf Guard Hengist]

A Grey Hunter with a Powerfist goes hand in hand with a Wolf Guard with a Powerfist and mark of Wulfen it just makes the unit awesome in combat escpecially when using a Wolf Standard. Suddenly the unit gets 5 Powerfist attacks on the charge/countercharge and can handle pretty much anything it comes up against.

 

Is it worth the cost? I say hell yea!

[Spacefrisian]

My setup is as follow.

 

If i go for the 10 men unit i add 2 special weapons and a Powerfist.

 

If i go for 9 men i go for 1 special weapon and either a powerfist or powerweapon, depends on what the Wolfguard is taking.

 

If i go for 8 men or less, i go for 1 special weapon and a powerweapon. In a Rhino the reamaining spots are filled with a IC and a Wolfguard.

[Race Bannon]

Why? Because GHs are the mainstay of a normal SW force. They arent suicide troops. They arent tactical marines. They are the Great Company, and making sure they can handle everything the grim darkness of the future can throw at them is not only a good idea, its your duty as their wolf lord.

 

Well said, sir! :blink:

 

This is my PoV to the letter.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

So we all love Grey Hunters. They rock. However Im always wondering if I should give them a power weapon or power fist and thinking to myself isn't it possibly a waste of points compared to Wolf Guard.

 

When is it tactially sound to give Grey Hunters a PW or PF over a Wolf Guard?

1) When your not putting a WG in the unit- I do this alot.

2) When you want a second SCCW in the squad, PWs being the best deal really.

3) When you have the extra points and want to increase their CC skills.

4) You realise its never a waste to ignore armor and double your strength.

 

Why? Because GHs are the mainstay of a normal SW force. They arent suicide troops. They arent tactical marines. They are the Great Company, and making sure they can handle everything the grim darkness of the future can throw at them is not only a good idea, its your duty as their wolf lord.

 

1 attack at str 8 is infinitely better than none at all.

 

This man is wise in the ways of Russ... er, the Codex.

[The_Betrayed_Spacewolf]

So we all love Grey Hunters. They rock. However Im always wondering if I should give them a power weapon or power fist and thinking to myself isn't it possibly a waste of points compared to Wolf Guard.

 

When is it tactially sound to give Grey Hunters a PW or PF over a Wolf Guard?

1) When your not putting a WG in the unit- I do this alot.

2) When you want a second SCCW in the squad, PWs being the best deal really.

3) When you have the extra points and want to increase their CC skills.

4) You realise its never a waste to ignore armor and double your strength.

 

Why? Because GHs are the mainstay of a normal SW force. They arent suicide troops. They arent tactical marines. They are the Great Company, and making sure they can handle everything the grim darkness of the future can throw at them is not only a good idea, its your duty as their wolf lord.

 

1 attack at str 8 is infinitely better than none at all.

 

 

you pay 25 points for 1 str 8 amour piercing attack. doesnt sound right by my mind. save the points for something more important

[Hfran Morkai]

Even when you could get an additional attack with power fist and pistol (and true grit by extension) I took power weapons on the actual grey hunters and gave my wolf guard the power fist.

 

I still do that, I like investing in my hunter units, especially as I either run them as five men plus wg in razorback or a soon to be footslogging army, where I need to win those combats.

[Bulweih]

I'm with GM and Spacefrisian on this to the letter. Nothing else to say really.

[The_Betrayed_Spacewolf]

you put a fists in the packs ill use the points i save to either get another rune priest, another squad of grey hunters or a predator.

[Grey Mage]

Theres advantages either way- for instance that hidden powerfist can instakill that runepriest, give a serious edge in CC against those GHs, and rip the radiator out of a predator.

 

*shrugs*. I just prefer the adaptability... why make required units a liability when they can be a strength?

[ChapniK]

there is always MotW if you cant make up your mind. I know you wont get to bypass the armour unless you get a six but with the number of attacks you usually get a good chance for that. On the plus side you can deal with armour and MC combine that with the banner and that pretty dangerous. I Run my Grey hunters with a Power fist Wolf guard and mark of the wulfen as i find that power weapons are too unreliable and that the power fist is two expensive.

[Kenmichi]

*shrugs*. I just prefer the adaptability... why make required units a liability when they can be a strength?

 

The exact reason I don't skip on my GH packs (other than the fact that I lose out on the free special weapon because I take a WG and mount them in Rhinos), they are the mainstay behind any decent Wolf Army. They should be able to lead the attack and support the attack simultaneously, all other options taken are just icing on the cake.

[milmaa]

I've been thinking about this as well while planning my force. I'm planning on having a few 5 man units mounted in Razorbacks like Mikal so I'll probably try a couple of units with and a couple with out until i get by over all strategy sorted!

 

This all makes good reading though :cuss