IA: Ravagers [Iron Gauntlet]

[Yogi]

Index Astartes: Ravagers -- Strength through Conflict.

Heavy handed, enigmatic and some say radical; the Ravager Chapter has many enemies within the Imperium.

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Origins

“Conflict is strength, never forget.” --Captain Malix of the 4th Company

Recollections of Ardax states that the Ravagers Chapter was created in the 12th founding, tasked with securing several poorly defended systems in the Gothic Sector. It is the earliest record that illustrates the Ravager’s infamous behavior; ignoring pleas for aid and securing significant assets. They are recorded to have secured the space around the Forge World Ardax Quintus rather than heed the suffering of Ardax Prime. Other chapters in the theatre, the Howling Griffons and the Argent Fists requested that the Ravagers join the defense of Prime. They received no response. Blunting the force of the Waaagh! with the assassination of Warboss Mad Skull, the Argent Fists who had suffered serious losses took their fleet to Quintus to demand the Ravagers account for their actions. What occurred was heated and birthed the mistrust that has followed the Ravagers ever since. Military strategists have debated as to what the Ravager’s hoped to achieve during Waaagh! Mad Skull. They secured an irreplaceable key asset in Ardax Quintus. Yet it was clear that the danger to the forge world was negligible. After the campaign the Argent Fists did attempt to sanction their brethren. However the record of this is sealed. The Ravager’s behavior continues to raise contempt from their peers; some Chapters such as the Argent Fists consider them traitors in all but name.

Recollections of Ardax

Argent Fist Captain Daridus: …leave another to burn. You are a coward, a murderer and a fool. I lost a host of brothers in this war, How many have you lost?

Ravager Captain Malix: Your concerns, are noted.

Daridus: Concerns? You are below contempt, you disgust me. You are not worthy to bear the name Astartes.

[static]

Daridus: Coward! You will not even speak. Others will hear of this and you will be brought into line.

Malix: I serve the Imperium. Your understanding is not required.

+++Fragment Ends+++

Fleet

+++Unidentified vessel this is the Hades Flight. In the name of the Emperor, prepare to be boarded.+++ --Transmission recovered from ghost ship Valiant Heart

The Ravagers are based on their Battle Barge Hades Flight. At their command are an additional five Strike Cruisers and numerous picket ships. They are tasked with patrolling systems within the Gothic Sector. However during the 12th Black Crusade the location of the majority of the fleet was unknown. Only the 2nd Companies Strike Cruiser Ixia in dry dock for repairs took part in the war. It was lost with all hands during its third engagement, performing reckless boarding actions against the Chaos Armada.

Investigation

“I find coincidence such a poor excuse.” --Inquisitor Teiwaz


After the conclusion of the Gothic War, questions were asked as to why the Ravagers were absent. Inquisitorial investigation was ordered. Inquisitor Teiwaz was tasked with the investigation. His report clears the Ravagers of any misdeed or heretical intent. Teiwaz’ report states that the Hades Flight Navigator encountered the Chaos warp storm, jumped to real space and died shortly after. With the storm only growing in power the Ravagers remained stranded in dead space between systems. Bold critics among the Astartes, familiar with the Ravagers, claimed Teiwaz as an accomplice. Accusing an Inquisitor is a foolish move, the Inquisition simply closed ranks; removing much of the incident from record.

Combat Doctrine

Centurion

The individual responsible for the mentoring of the Ravagers is recorded only as Centurion. His teachings and ethos are attributed to the modus operandi of the chapter.

Most historians assert the Centurion was simply an unknown Captain. Others more excitable scholars assert that the Centurion was in fact an Inquisitor of the Istvaanian faction. They claim he molded the chapter to suit his own agenda, for the chapter actions can be viewed to roughly mirror the Istvaanian Creed. A pathetic minority whisper that the Centurion was something worse.

Succeeding Chapter Masters take the name of the Centurion and forsake their former name and titles. This makes it exceedingly difficult to determine any information on the original.

“We are the wall separating the Imperium from suffering a slow death. We strengthen it through our action or inaction.” -–Centurion

The Ravagers are Codex, yet reckless. There are several incidents of non codex actions such as last stands and high risk tactics. Ravager Marines often ignore the option of tactical retreat. Harsh contemporaries say they possess a fatalistic belief that clashes with the tenets of the codex. They point to the history of the chapter’s losses and ask why there are never survivors. War is chaotic at best, and many chapters have far more glaring idiosyncrasies. In their history The Ravagers have been often called upon by members of the Inquisition to virus bomb worlds. Inquisitor Mira was quoted as saying “They obey without question; It is most refreshing to see from Astartes.”

Recruitment

“War weeds out the weak.” -–Ravager Belief.

Due to their mobile nature the Ravagers recruit from a range of worlds. Feral Worlds are often used, but Death Worlds of low technology are particularly favored. The majority of chapters are strict when it comes to recruiting, but it appears that the Ravagers are never satisfied. They have recruited from over forty different worlds. Three of which the Ravagers deemed “weak” these feral populations were entirely wiped out. Their planets earmarked for re-colonization. As Feral Worlds provide little resources they were not missed.

The Rite of Strength

During his investigation, Teiwaz was present for a Rite of Strength. Veteran Sergeant Vyloc petitioned the Centurion to challenge his superior. Captain Karro decided the challenge would make use of the planet below. They would fight in the thick jungle sans armor and weapons except for a combat knife. The first to cause ‘the yield’ would be the victor. Challengers wore a com-bead so that the call to yield could be heard by all.

Once on the planet, the Centurion and much of the company in question watched the contest through orbital thermal imaging. Teiwaz overheard that the Captain’s method was exotic and that Karro was showing off for the outsider.

Karro lead the aggressive Vyloc around the jungle for almost an hour before ambushing him. The melee itself was indecipherable with only heat imaging, but after several grunts of pain were heard over the com, one of the heat shapes disarmed his attacker, pinned him and placed the knife to his throat. “Well, do you?” was heard, followed by a long pause, finally the word, almost a whisper, was spoken “Yield.” Karro was victorious.

Organisation

“I invoke the Rite of Strength.”-- Veteran Sergeant Vyloc

The Ravagers follow the organisation laid out in the codex. Teiwaz’ classified report brought to light that some feral world beliefs have taken root at the organisational level. Their system of promotion is a very complicated with many unwritten rules. Called the “Rite of Strength” a marine may challenge his direct superior. This must follow a score of other restrictions including the Centurion’s approval. If the challenge is allowed to proceed then the senior ranked marine determines the challenge, usually a feat of combat prowess, such as dueling or other more creative methods. The victory conditions are simple, one marine must yield. This requirement can and has resulted in death.

With regards to the position of the Centurion itself, the matter can become problematic. The worst case in M36 was when the Centurion was slain in battle. Five Rites of Strength took place. Six marines were involved, all were captains and all were ambitious. Three died, two were mortally wounded and the victor became the Centurion. Teiwaz having witnessed a rite during his investigation likened it to a ‘exterminatus switch’. Should they desire it, the Inquisition could simply assassinate the Centurion repeatedly and the chapter would tear itself apart. Inquisitors disgusted by this barbarism demanded the chapter be destroyed. The majority were loath to lose a confirmed loyal chapter out of squeamishness. The placated their peers with that the chapter could be easily dealt with should the need arise.
The period of rebuilding after the Centurion's death can take decades. However the Ravagers consider it necessary for the Chapter to remain strong. The losses are irrelevant.

Geneseed

"Guilliman is our father, the Centurion our teacher." -- Unknown Ravager

The Ravagers chapter gene stock is from Guilliman. There are no mutations in the zygote. The Adeptus Mechcanicus assert the tithe they received functions at optimal levels.

Beliefs

"Never show weakness." -- Maladon Captain of the Ixia

The Ravagers venerate strength. They honor The Emperor, Guilliman and the Centurion as the strongest in the Imperium. They seek to enhance that strength. They believe conflict breeds it and that weakness is corruption. They fear the loss of irreplaceable technology diminishes the Imperium’s power. These broad beliefs can be compared with the more radical and far more refined Istvaanian ethos. That war, mistrust and hatred are assets to the Imperium. Istvaanian’s believe that these qualities are essential to the Imperium’s continued survival and that the Horus Heresy strengthened mankind.
The Ravagers have the favor with much of the Inquisition. They consider the association beneficial. Their obedience and heavy handed methods please the vast majority. The desire to safeguard the Adeptus Mechanicus at all costs grants them another ally and resources.
Yet, enigmatic actions, their blatant refusal to assist even other Space Marines, their absence from the Gothic War and their feral promotion method ensure they have many enemies. Elements of the Inquisition, the Imperial Navy, Guard and the Space Marines, who are aware of the Ravagers reputation, regard them with mistrust at best with hatred at worst.

Battle Cry

Centurion! Centurion!

[Captain Juan Juarez]

I lost 238 brothers...

- Two and a half Companies of Marines..? Do you know the sort of conflict it require to suffer those kind of losses in one campaign?

[tehkonraf]

You've got a really good idea for a chapter there man. I agree with the point about marine losses, they do seem a bit extreme. Aside from that this notion of a bunch of Inquistorial/Admech lackeys/pet maniacs is a fairly darn awesome one, and I look forward to further information on them.

[Yogi]

I thought it was very difficult to stop a waaagh. Then in my mind the Argent Fists (Iron Gauntlet..) had been there since the beginning and had lead the assassination attack. So what should it be like 67 or something? I guess its a little extreme. So I'll change it to 67.

 

Thanx for reading guys.

 

@ tehkonraf I think it needs more about strained relations with other astartes. I feel it starts off there, and that there atleast should be some incident towards the end.

 

Also Please rip this thing to bits. I am invincible in regards to criticism.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

Inquisitorial/AdMech "lackies" are nothing new.. Theres at least one Chapter in the Liber at the moment, other than this, that uses the concept.

 

Yogi, as for suitable numbers, fluff wise; consider that often losing even six Battle-Brothers on campaign can be seen as excessive casualties.

Unless it is by far the biggest catastrophe in the Chapters history, then anything more than two dozen Marines is just pushing it, in my ever so humble opinion.

[ChaplainMathreyn]

Just avoid numbers altogether... Say things like "host", "waves", "handful", "masses" etc. to make it sound much more dramatic... Saying "Yeah 50 Marines fought 567667000 Orks is Not epic... Its boring.

[Yogi]

I like your version Chaplian matheryn.. Editing host..

 

@ captain Juan. I'm aware. However I have never read of a chapter echoing Istvaanian ideals. Im inclined to remove things such as the rite of strength (on reflection seems rather chaotic.. perhaps changing it to a feat of strength, or dumping it entirely. ). And Focus more on the primary idea of Marines starting or abstaining from wars and not finishing them. A single- minded IA, simply focusing on that one concept and how it affects all aspects.

 

If this warmonging becomes to obvious though, how do I justify their continued existence. The Istvaanian faction is radical and radicals are usually hunted down. This is why I presented them as a key to the balance. To stop Istvaanian plots from simply destroying whole sectors by protecting that which is irreplaceable.

 

On their association with Admech.. I never intended them to come across as lackeys. However logically then need to resupply somewhere. GW is always harping on that technology is irreplaceable. So therefore a conflict that destroys a forge world in no way strengthens the Imperium. But man power, agri worlds, even other space marines are all completely replaceableor so numerous it dosen't matter. I think of the Admech as a rare resources. I guess I need to show that.

 

 

 

This was a side bar that I discarded. Reason being I had too many sidebars and not enough content. It also needed work and felt a bit obvious.

 

 

+++Interrogation +++

Prisoner XX3167: Fine I tell you, *sighs* just promise me a clean death.

Interrogator: Cooperation will grant the Emperor’s Absolution.

Prisoner XX3167: Inquisitor Teiwaz and I were met by the Astartes Chapter Master on the Bridge of Hades Flight. The Inquisitor exchanged greetings while I scanned the room and saw that there was absolutely no way to protect my charge with nine other Astartes in audience. *looks at interrogator*

Interrogator: Continue.

Prisoner XX3167: I was shocked when the usually diplomatic Inquisitor said “Can you confirm you’re still loyal?” The man had brass balls.

Interrogator: Punishment administered for flippant remark.

Prisoner XX3167: *sounds of gasping* argh, ok. The Astartes Master regarded the Inquisitor coldly and replied “We are the wall separating the Imperium from suffering a slow death. We strengthen it through our action or inaction. You know this Inquisitor.”

“What of the Black Stone Fortresses?” Teiwaz questioned.

“Xenos tech.” The Astartes spat on the ground in disgust. “Mankind must make its own future.”

“Your chapter would have made little impact either way.” Teiwaz said.

I thought we would both die then; the mood had changed from indifference to hostility. I could tell he was frustrated, the Astartes. His attention turned to me.

“What is your vassal’s purpose?”

“Protection.”

The Astartes laughed at this. “Send him away.”

So Teiwaz sent me so stand guard outside the bridge. At the time I was relieved.

+++End+++

Many scholars are unconvinced by this account and believe it to be a fabrication. No sources or witness’ are known, so therefore it is refutable. Teiwaz himself was killed less than a decade latter. Others take it as proof of the Ravagers enthrallment to the Istvaanian faction. If it is a fabrication, why is so little revealed? Inquisitor Teiwaz allegiance was known to be Amalathian. Though critics assert because the Istvaanian’s are radical it is likely many members do not disclose their association.

 

Anyway a handful more hopefully brutal opinions and I will rewrite.

 

Also I am striving to make my IA not boring. I noticed alot of IA don't tell a story. They are an account of someones armies' nuances, but there is no conflict. Good writing in my opinion is always about conflict. Im aware mine may be boring and also lacking in conflict.. if you have ideas no matter how outrageous please tell me.

 

Cheers

[Commander Remiel]

@ captain Juan. I'm aware. However I have never read of a chapter echoing Istvaanian ideals. Im inclined to remove things such as the rite of strength (on reflection seems rather chaotic.. perhaps changing it to a feat of strength, or dumping it entirely. ).

As an old time Battletech player, this reminds me how the Clans did promotions and even grievances. Combats between huge ass robots (something like the AdMech Knights if you have never seen Battletech).

 

And they were most definitely did not recruit from feral worlds, just extremely aggressive. The clans, too, had their factions - ultra aggressive (Crusaders), and more defensive (Wardens). A Crusader clan even nuked a planet that rebelled/refused their dominance. They had contempt for those that did not see their point of view. So I say keep it.

 

If this warmonging becomes to obvious though, how do I justify their continued existence. The Istvaanian faction is radical and radicals are usually hunted down. This is why I presented them as a key to the balance. To stop Istvaanian plots from simply destroying whole sectors by protecting that which is irreplaceable.

To some people the ends justifies the means (for example, the Crusader clans I mentioned above). Could be a motto for your IA. If they are advancing the imperium's cause and some of the Inquistion (and AdMech) support them, other factions would have difficulty "bringing them to justice."

 

Also I am striving to make my IA not boring. I noticed alot of IA don't tell a story. They are an account of someones armies' nuances, but there is no conflict. Good writing in my opinion is always about conflict. Im aware mine may be boring and also lacking in conflict.. if you have ideas no matter how outrageous please tell me.

Definitely not boring. You have taken a somewhat unique tack of comparing their philosophy to that of an Inquisitorial faction. Gives the reader something to base their actions against. Also provides some mystery to their origins, procedures, etc.

 

I am looking forward to reading more.

[Yogi]

Thanx Remiel..

 

In a couple of days Ill bash a new version out incorporating things learnt from this thread.. Hopefully get a few more comments thought :ph34r:...

[Apothete]

It's like someone tailord today to be my return... The first song on my random playlist is Godspeed You Black Emperor's A Silver Mount Zion, someone asking for brutal criticism has a misspelling in their title line, and there's plenty of material for me to wade through on the front page.

 

“Conflict is strength, never forget.” --Captain Malix of the 4th Company

 

This is choppy without necessarily adding anything stylistic.

 

Recollections of Ardax states that the Ravagers Chapter was created in the 12th founding, tasked with securing several poorly defended systems in the Gothic Sector. It is the earliest record that illustrates the Ravager’s infamous behavior; ignoring pleas for aid and securing significant assets. They are recorded to have secured the space around the Forge World Ardax Quintus rather than heed the suffering of Ardax Prime.

 

Securing... Securing... Secured... Oh my.

 

I bring this criticism up in just about every IA that I respond to, but you're using the same words over and over again without a hint of variation. The same thing happens with "record." Even more importantly, you launch into your history as if the readers will know about Ardex Prime without even telling us anything about the conflict, why it would require not only the attentions of an Astartes Chapter, but the creation of one. From there, you move on to namedropping several others who are present in-theater and thus up the scale of a war which has yet to even show us why there should even be Marines involved.

 

Midway through the paragraph, you suddenly mention a WAAAGH! without telling us why the orks are there or what they've been doing. This further complicates through the addition of internecine conflict that is given very little attention or exposition, setting up a theme which I can see you are interested in pursuing but which you haven't really adequately fleshed out. To me, it reads something like the laziness that we typically see from supposedly secret geneseed, in that the "mystery" is lost and replaced with flimsy psuedo-premise. Now, that's not to say that you're a lazy writer, but you probably want to avoid that appearance.

 

+++Unidentified vessel this is the Hades Flight. In the name of the Emperor, prepare to be boarded.+++ --Transmission recovered from ghost ship Valiant Heart

 

You're missing a comma in the first line.

 

More importantly, what does this add?

 

The Ravagers are based on their Battle Barge Hades Flight. At their command are an additional five Strike Cruisers and numerous picket ships. They are tasked with patrolling systems within the Gothic Sector. However during the 12th Black Crusade the location of the majority of the fleet was unknown. Only the 2nd Companies Strike Cruiser Ixia in dry dock for repairs took part in the war. It was lost with all hands during its third engagement, performing reckless boarding actions against the Chaos Armada.

 

You're either under-strength, not capable of moving the entire Chapter, or have a sizeable chunk of the available Brothers somewhere besides the ships. A Battle Barge typically holds up to three Companies, a Strike Cruiser one, and the various frigates and escorts might hold a squad at most.

 

I ask again, though... What does the vagueness add to your Chapter? Why mention it at all unless you're just linking yourself to a famous conflict without providing a reason, details, and the ramifications?

 

Oh, and it's "Company's."

 

After the conclusion of the Gothic War, questions were asked as to why the Ravagers were absent. Inquisitorial investigation was ordered. Inquisitor Teiwaz was tasked with the investigation. His report clears the Ravagers of any misdeed or heretical intent. Teiwaz’ report states that the Hades Flight Navigator encountered the Chaos warp storm, jumped to real space and died shortly after. With the storm only growing in power the Ravagers remained stranded in dead space between systems. Bold critics among the Astartes, familiar with the Ravagers, claimed Teiwaz as an accomplice. Accusing an Inquisitor is a foolish move, the Inquisition simply closed ranks; removing much of the incident from record.

 

This is madness...

 

Madness?

 

This. Is. Choppy!

 

Here's a quick and dirty rewrite using nothing other than the information that you've put in front of me:

In the aftermath of the Gothic War, scrutiny came to bear upon the Ravagers in the form of a tribunal headed by Inquisitor Teiwaz of the Ordo Hereticus. The formal report filed with his masters revealed a course of events that stemmed from the sudden deaths of the Navigtors aboard the Hades Flight while attempting to clear a warp storm, leaving the great ship becalmed between the stars and unable to steer by the Astronomican. Bold criticism from the Ravager's brethren amongst other Chapters brought a snarling, furious close to the proceedings, with the Inquisition backing away from prosecuting without further evidence of wrongdoing in the face of potential war. The records have largely been sealed or expunged, though certain figures within the Ordo still maintain their vigil and wait for the Ravagers to give them cause.

 

Now, that being said, I'm not really a fan of how you've handled this. The Inquisition is quite likely the only body besides the Adeptus Terra itself which would dare to go head to head with the Astartes on a grand scale, and even then you're using a defensive measure which runs counter to your earlier assertion that other Astartes believe the Ravagers to be borderline traitors. Why would anyone come to their defense?

 

“We are the wall separating the Imperium from suffering a slow death. We strengthen it through our action or inaction.” -–Centurion

 

"We are all that separates the Imperium from a slow death. Through our choices, we bring strength."

[Yogi]

Thankyou Apothete. The areas you pointed out: repeated words, failure to justify/explain the Ardax war, Fleet size. Will all be amended.

 

Common grammar errors, ARGH! I read this thing like 5 times and I still misspelled the title.

 

Now, that being said, I'm not really a fan of how you've handled this. The Inquisition is quite likely the only body besides the Adeptus Terra itself which would dare to go head to head with the Astartes on a grand scale, and even then you're using a defensive measure which runs counter to your earlier assertion that other Astartes believe the Ravagers to be borderline traitors. Why would anyone come to their defense?

 

"...and even then you're using a defensive measure which runs counter to your earlier assertion that other Astartes believe the Ravagers to be borderline traitors."

 

I'm not sure I understand what your saying. Defensive measure? Do you mean the Inquisition closing ranks? How does this counter that other Astartes hate them? As to why the Inquisition would save them, its because they obey without question. Which from my understanding is rare from marines.

 

This is madness...

 

Madness?

 

This. Is. Choppy!

 

Yes it it unnaturally so. Thats because I was deliberately trying to be more concise and chopping words out. I can see that was an error. As when I compare my paragraph to your compelling quick and dirty paragraph, the urge to kill, maim and burn rises.

 

Overall I think I have pretty much all I need to begin a rewrite.

 

I will hopefully have it done in a couple of days.

[Apothete]

Thankyou Apothete. The areas you pointed out: repeated words, failure to justify/explain the Ardax war, Fleet size. Will all be amended.

 

Common grammar errors, ARGH! I read this thing like 5 times and I still misspelled the title.

 

To further expand on my general thrust, I think you would do well to read the first and second links at the bottom of my signature. The biggest thematic mistake that many authors here make, in my opinion, is that they forget the audience are not mind readers and therefore cannot intrinsicly understand just how a conclusion stems from a premise. Sometimes you need more or better information, sometimes you just need an edit of what's already there, but a reasonably intelligent and literate person should be able to understand what you're driving at without having to ask too many questions.

 

If you mention a proper name, be it a person, place, conflict, or something else, then you need to also explain why it's worth mentioning and how it effects what you're writing about. We know all about the basics of Space Marines. What we need to know is the differences that make your Astartes something worth reading about.

 

I'm not sure I understand what your saying. Defensive measure? Do you mean the Inquisition closing ranks? How does this counter that other Astartes hate them? As to why the Inquisition would save them, its because they obey without question. Which from my understanding is rare from marines.

 

The objection stems from your assertion on the final line of the Origins section, where you say that there are Chapters which consider the Ravagers to be no better than traitors, with the mildest reaction you describe being distrust and contempt. If that's the case, then why would anyone come to their defense, least of all other Astartes who find them so repugnant?

 

I will hopefully have it done in a couple of days.

 

Good luck with it!

 

I'm sitting here and trying to organize my thoughts on yet another rewrite and polish session for my year-plus long project. It's sitting at close to five thousand words and I need to rebalance it yet again.

 

We all have our struggles.

[Yogi]

I have read both of those links. However it is a lot to take in at once. (those guides helped immensely) The Further Commentary, was indeed good (on second viewing just now). I think I skimmed it the first time.

 

Also my confusion and your dislike was a failure in literary expression. The Ravagers where saved solely by the Inquisitors. Indeed no astartes has or would ever come to their aid. The fact you thought they did simply means I need to clear that up sharpish.

 

Also which IA are you planning to polish (I don't want to necro the wrong thread), the Exonerators or the Inscrutable?

 

Cheers

[Ecritter]

My Lions of Caliban might come to their aid ... course they might eat them afterwards, but they'd come at least.

 

I say drop the Inquisition and AdMech links ... Space Marines don't need help ...... WE'RE MARINES !!!

[Yogi]

I was tossing that up myself. As it mudles much of the IA, and many problems have been the cause of it..

 

Not 100% decided mind, but I'm leaning that way.

[Apothete]

I have read both of those links. However it is a lot to take in at once. (those guides helped immensely) The Further Commentary, was indeed good (on second viewing just now). I think I skimmed it the first time.

 

Just wait until you really get hooked on fluff probity... I've spent hours scouring the Librarium here, Lexicanium, the 40k wikis, my own books, and the minds of others to make sure that some relatively obscure point was correct. Incidentally, the other links below my signature are included to be helpful for other Liberites - the star map, our own Librarium, and the community timeline.

 

Also my confusion and your dislike was a failure in literary expression. The Ravagers where saved solely by the Inquisitors. Indeed no astartes has or would ever come to their aid. The fact you thought they did simply means I need to clear that up sharpish.

 

I could hardly think otherwise when you said outright that the Inquisition backed off due to the complaints made by other Chapters. That's the way that the line about Astartes reads to me, though I suppose that you could also interpret it as meaning that the claims about Teiwaz came from within the Ravagers.

 

I'll go back over more of the writeup and look for other issues later. After being up until nearly dawn last night, I've got a bit of Finish It Fever on my own writing.

 

Also which IA are you planning to polish (I don't want to necro the wrong thread), the Exonerators or the Inscrutable?

 

At the moment, I'm working on the Exonerators but please don't revive the thread. I'll be posting and listing my major changes on an update when I have the edit in place.

 

I say drop the Inquisition and AdMech links ... Space Marines don't need help ...... WE'RE MARINES !!!

 

So where do your Strike Cruisers, Dreadnoughts, Tactical Dreadnought Armor, tanks, and other wargear come from, then?