Morlocks

[AGPO]

I've come across the term 'Morlocks' refering to some Iron Hands elites a few times now. Lexicanum has nothing on them. Who were they and did they only exist as a pre-heresy formation. Thanks in advance

[calgar101]

They were the Iron Hands veteran company pre-Heresy.

[Lorgars Servent]

I think they were Ferrus Mannus (spl?) personal bodyguards so probably didnt survive the who Instavann V think! and wernt reformed afterwards

[Chaptermaster Graymantle]

It is also worthy of note that in the original "The Time Machine" story by H. G. Wells (not 40k), Morlocks were the evil industrial-like creatures living underground.

they seemed strong and powerful, yet primitive. Instinctively maintaining the ancient machines (that everyone had forgotten about and no-one really knew how worked any longer) that kept everything working for the "paradise" existence of the peaceful, yet feeble human-like creatures on the surface.

The only thing the surface dwellers had to worry about was the occasional raids made by the powerful and war-like Morlocks. Ironically making the Morlocks both the source of the surface dwellers' carefree existance and the source of their worst and deadliest terrors.

 

The Time Traveller comes to this society in his brass chair-like time machine (Golden Throne) and becomes a welcome guest, and in many ways a saviour among the Eloi (the surface dwellers).

However the Morlocks steal the Time Traveller's Time Machine and he has to set out on a quest to retrieve it and in the process go into the dark underworld of the Morlocks to learn more of the society he has come to find himself in.

 

Much like the Emperor, we never get to know the name of the Time Traveller. - He is always just known as The Time Traveller.

 

In The Time Traveller, I would say that the Morlocks are a symbol of the dangers of industrialization and the fear of the unknown.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

Also, tangent-wise, they were the name of an underground mutant community in the old X-Men cartoon series.

 

40k wise, I always assumed they were the elite of all the Clan Companies.

[Kodanshi]

It is also worthy of note that in the original "The Time Machine" story by H. G. Wells (not 40k), Morlocks were the evil industrial-like creatures living underground.

they seemed strong and powerful, yet primitive. Instinctively maintaining the ancient machines (that everyone had forgotten about and no-one really knew how worked any longer) that kept everything working for the "paradise" existence of the peaceful, yet feeble human-like creatures on the surface.

The only thing the surface dwellers had to worry about was the occasional raids made by the powerful and war-like Morlocks. Ironically making the Morlocks both the source of the surface dwellers' carefree existance and the source of their worst and deadliest terrors.

 

The Time Traveller comes to this society in his brass chair-like time machine (Golden Throne) and becomes a welcome guest, and in many ways a saviour among the Eloi (the surface dwellers).

However the Morlocks steal the Time Traveller's Time Machine and he has to set out on a quest to retrieve it and in the process go into the dark underworld of the Morlocks to learn more of the society he has come to find himself in.

 

Much like the Emperor, we never get to know the name of the Time Traveller. - He is always just known as The Time Traveller.

 

In The Time Traveller, I would say that the Morlocks are a symbol of the dangers of industrialization and the fear of the unknown.

Ahh, you beat me to it. I intended on bringing The Time Machine up! The other thing about them is that humanity evolved into two post–human, separate races: the Eloi and the Morlocks.

[hazardousZERO]

They were the Terminator wearing veteran companies if the Iron Hands. At the Isvann V(spelling?) massacre there were 10 company's of Morlocks and at least some made it out of there alive..

[Verythrax Draconis]

I was considering doing a IH army using the BA codex (chaplains for iron fathers, all the dreads and tuned tanks) but I found 2 problems: what to do with DC and Sanguinary guard? Maybe making some morlocks counting as sanguinary guard? And about the DC?

[AGPO]

How about heavily bionically enhanced shcok troops? It'd cover the whole 'feel no pain' thing pretty well, as well as he boosted stats. Be cool to model too :wacko:

[mysteriousmaskedmystery]

how about don't use those units? i'm all for using the codex that you feel fits you fluff, but don't force something in just for the rules and call it fluffy.

[Trel]

I think unless you were building a pre-Heresy Iron Hands force, there'd be no sense in using the Morlocks now, as any who survived the Drop Site Massacre (and I don't think there were) would have been interred in a Dreadnought by now.

 

Indeed, though, the Morlocks were Ferrus Manus' hand-picked elite. They functioned as a bodyguard/retinue/advisory formation.

[Verythrax Draconis]

I agree about and Pre-heresy army.

 

Just wondering how impossible would be for the clans to inherit that name and and concept and use it for their own honor guards/elites/veterans.

[Trel]

Certainly, there's nothing to stop the Clan-Companies getting together, sending their best into a single bunch and calling them the Morlocks; however, I can't really see it happening.

 

The Hands are still pretty bitter about the whole thing. Of course, at the Traitors, for being too weak to stay on the high-and-narrow path, but also bitter at the defenders of Terra for being too weak to prevent the Emperor's crippling.

 

To re-use the name would suggest that they're beginning to get over it, and that it's time to resurrect one of the proud names from the Legion's history.

 

I think they prefer, "The Morlocks are dead. They were betrayed by the weak, and were themselves too weak to defend themselves. They should stay dead. A cautionary tale."

[Vash113]

They were the Terminator wearing veteran companies if the Iron Hands. At the Isvann V(spelling?) massacre there were 10 company's of Morlocks and at least some made it out of there alive..

 

None of the Iron Hands made it off of Istvaan V alive, a handful of Raven Guard and Salamanders did but very few. Ferrus Manus and his Morlocks struck deep into the traitor lines gunning for Fulgrim and his Emperor's Children. They were completely surrounded, cut off and annihilated with the arrival and treachery of the reserve Legions. In short the Morlocks were Ferrus Manus' bodyguard and fought with him to the death, none survived.

 

I think they prefer, "The Morlocks are dead. They were betrayed by the weak, and were themselves too weak to defend themselves. They should stay dead. A cautionary tale."

 

I have to agree with this, the Iron Hands abhore failure and the weak, Ferrus Manus is gone and hense there's no need for a bodyguard, especially a bodyguard that failed.

 

Also with note of using the Blood Angels rules, the Iron Hands were never noted for using lots of Dreadnaughts, even Pre-Heresy and Post-Heresy the Chapter has very few, perhaps as few as seven in the entire Chapter according to some of their fluff. So an entire army of Dreadnaughts is really not in the Chapter/Legions Character.

[Iron Father Jaro]

You are making this assumption base on Iron Hands book made by the guy who have this much of fluff knowledge that in his book:

 

Technomagi - so person who know some think about technology try to jack in to Titan and he is surprised that he is killed in process. Just like Princeps ware just normal pilots...

 

In his opinion On Medusa Necrons run free and part of the training of new recruits is to go thrum city infested with wrights...

 

His Iron Hands don't care about mission objective, if they have chance to jump on some heretics and bash ther heads.

 

The best argument to convince Iron Hand Iron father to do something is to seed to him "you are to week to do this"... 6 years old children have more wits then those characters...

 

Come one...

Lets forget this book.

 

In original IA article there ware only information about that they don't use Terminators in Squads they prefer to use them as liders of the tactical squad.

 

Even rules they have state that they could use 4 dreds in time when 3 was maximum for all codex except Space wolfs.

[Raven Angel]

They were also the only other chapter that took Dreads as HQ. Being intered in a Dread is like the ultamate goal for an IH SM.

[Vash113]

Come one...

Lets forget this book.

 

Wow... just... wow. I mention one piece of "Iron Hands" and the response is a totally overblown rant? Sheesh, besides we've all heard that same bunch of arguments more times than I can even count. All told Iron Hands was not that bad a book and the fluff in it was not that bad either. It's important to remember that it is not one of the more recent publications, Necrons were not very solidified in the fluff, heck the core Iron Hands material has Ferrus Manus grapling with a draconic looking Necron sheethed in living metal. Next to that a few Wraiths seems like small potatoes.

 

Compared to the travesty of the Blood Angels series, the horror that is the Soul Drinkers series and the abysmal Ultramarines series, Iron Hands is little short of a gem. No it isn't fantastic, but like Salamander or Sons of Dorn, it's not amazing, but it's not that bad either. I'll take mediocre fluff over abhorrent fluff anyday.

 

Oh and their last iteration of rules allowed 6 Dreads, but that's traits for ya.

[Hrvat]

Another potential source for the Morlocks, since we know people of Medusa were nomadic due to the plantes nature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlach

[Iron Father Jaro]

Vash113 please don’t misunderstand me.

It was not my intention to start trolling around. I just know that just to many people take this book and decide that it is “grand book of all knowledge”. It is not.

 

 

I don’t know if you have read Barrington J. Bayley book “Eye of Terror”? In it one of the main characters is human flying around galaxy with Eldar Wrightguard as his bodyguard. :sweat: This guy have bought this Wrightguard on some market. :sweat: :blink: :blink:

I don’t know elder player who would base on this book seed:

 

“Hey those elder are strange race. They sell their grandfathers walking tombs to Humans they disgust so much. I wonder maybe I should include in my army some terminators I receive from humans for it…” ;)

 

No most of them would just seed: “Lets forget this book” :)

 

There are good books written by people who like, and understand wk40k universe (like HH series) and bad ones that are just… bad.

Iron Hands Novel by Jonathan Green in my opinion is bad book and as you seed outdated.

 

I think that we have this freedom to use our common sense on fluff.

 

Of course this is my opinion and you are completely free to have different view.

 

Btw.

This whole nekron – wyrm –C’tan think is another great assumption. :P

 

It was never officially seed that this was nekron construct . It didn’t faze out. It didn’t shoot green lasers from his eyes. It always have been silver wyrm and nothing more. People just assume that this have to be nekron. (no I don’t have idea what this creature could be).

 

I hope that now no hard feelings are taken.

 

Ps: sorry for of topic.