Long Fangs or Predators

[whiteridder]

Hello Brothers, got a question about Long Fangs and predators. At this moment I'm upgrading my 13th company to a space wolves army. For Heavy support I now got some landraiders and crusaders and 3 vindicators (works very well) but now I want or a unit long fangs or 2 predators. I want this unit for shooting nasy HQ's and tanks from afar ( Dante or other Blood Angesl for example)

 

I'm thinking about the following units:

 

1 unit Long fangs.

leader and 5 long fangs with lascannons and a razorback with twin linked lascannon

This is about 308 points and only 1 Heavy support slot. About this unit, I maybe exchange the lascannons for missile launchers, but don't know if that is a good idea.

 

The other unit I'm thinkg about is 2 predator each with twin linked lascannon and lascannon sponsos. These are 330 points but this is also 2 Heavy support slots.

 

Both units I want to stay in cover as long as possible and only move when necasery.

 

So brothers can you help me with this problem?

[Wolf Guard Hengist]

I currently use one of each, although I would suggest you dilute the Long Fangs with some missile launchers or heavy bolters because each time you lose a lascannon it will hurt as they come in at 40 points each.

[Hfran Morkai]

I'd say Long Fangs, though the load-out I like for anti-tank is three Missile Launchers and two Lascannons with a Lascannon Razorback.

 

The reason is all it takes is a single glancing hit from a weapon to stop you shooting with your predators, so a Krak missile will make it useless for a turn, against Long Fangs you'll potentially lose one weapon but the rest of the Pack will be able to fire, plus cover-saves for Infantry are much easier to acquire.

[whiteridder]

Oke, so maybe take 2 missile launchers and 3 lascannons. The point is that I want nasty Hq's dead as soon as possible. And I'm thinking with lascannons it works very well.

[Grey Mage]

Predator with 3x Lascannon- 165pts.

5 Long Fangs with 4x Lascannon- 175pts.

 

You trade one TL shot for a whole extra shot, the ability to hit two targets for the ability to move 6" and still get one shot off, and the ability to make use of any available cover save can be yours for the low cost of 10pts.

 

I usually go with LFs.

[TiguriusX]

The only predator I consider over LF is the TLAC + LC sponsons. It is slightly cheaper than a LF squad and gives you 4 shots at range

 

However, I think you sacrifice too much flexibility by leaving LF off your list. When you add the TL-LC razorback to the equation then a single HS slot can drop 3 separate transports in a single round of firing.

[Max_Dammit]

Depends on your list, I use a pred, I also field a vindicator and a bunch of rino's, If id use long fangs, the enemy would have a free shot at my rino with no negative with his AT, now he has to chose, GH's in my face or TL las in my face. He's there to get the attention away from my dread and rino's

[Cyrl]

I've been thinking of running a list with 2x AC/LC Preds + 3x ML + 2x Plasma Long Fangs, I'll be Drop Podding 2x MM Dreads so I should already have enough AT without the Lascannons.

 

I really love Plasma Cannons for the flexibility and utility they have against most targets, I'd recommend them for situations where AT isn't the highest priority.