captain sox Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hello freinds! I'm puzzled by these two rules, so some quick clarification is needed! Can 'Tactical' Terminators fire their heavy weapons the turn they arrive via Deep Strike? I know the DS rule says they can fire rapid fire weapons or run, but does Relentless allow the heavies? What about Assaulting? Does Relentless allow the assault? Please help a confused brother plan his list. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazardousZERO Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 In my experience they can DS in and shoot. Then they can move shoot and assault all weapons and they do very well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kephri Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 They can move and fire (or deep strike and fire) any of their weapons. They cannot assault the turn they deep strike, as the action of "Deep strike" is preventing the assault. (The fact that they count as moving isn't a problem, the deep strike rules are what prevents them from assaulting as they arrive) Otherwise, they can move, fire and assault. (and still must assault what they shot at) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Kephri is correct, relentless removes the movement and assault restrictions from heavy and rapid fire weapons, however it does not remove the assault restriction from deepstriking (or from exiting a transport, though this will only come up for termies with grey knight terminators in chimeras, unless the new blood angels book has something new) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 doesnt DS count as thier movement though, so when they DS in they cant then move again.. only run or shoot edit for orkish spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bystrom Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think Frosty meant the movement and assault restrictions when firing heavy and rapid fire weapons, they still can't move (excluding run) when they deep strike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kephri Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Correct GC. We may not have been as clear as possible. Terminators/Relentless normally can move, shoot (including heavy) and assault (what they shot at) Terminators/Relentless deep striking can shoot (including heavy) or run. (no assault) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 great stuff! Thanks for the replies. I have a better understanding of both situations now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/195673-terminator-deep-strike-vs-relentless/#findComment-2330872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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