Daemon bases

[warp spider]

Before I start, please correct me if this is against the fourum rules (yes this involves fantasy :cuss ).

 

I am considering starting a Daemon army - one of the main reasons is that I can use them in both 40k and WFB (a multi use army).

 

My question is, what is the best way to do this - I do not want to just make do, and make a stand in (ie square bases in 40k vs ranked round bases.)

I have seen interchangable bases, but I like the Idea of having a magnetic movement tray.

 

Looking at the War of the Ring ones that GW makes, these would be Ideal - round bases that rank up as fantasy. However, these are only 4 across, and fantasy (correct me if Im wrong) is 5 across. I could cut and combine 2, but that would be too expensive/might go wrong.

 

So, do you know any companys that sell round based, 5 across movement trays (preferably in the UK)?

Even better if they: 1. are scienic 2. magnetic.

 

Thus I can use them in fantasy (in the trays) and 40k (off the trays).

 

Side note, I do want a specialist one - just using fantasy movement trays would leave unsightly triangles betbeen the bases (for round)

[mortiferum]

http://www.gf9.com/store/product_info.php?...products_id=103

 

They do have UK suppliers.

[warp spider]

http://www.gf9.com/store/product_info.php?...products_id=103

 

They do have UK suppliers.

so are these simply pieces of plywood lasercut, or whole bases? (Either would work for me)

[eyescrossed]

A word of warning though, Daemons in Fantasy are very powerful. Fantasy has horrible balance issues at the moment.

 

I was like you - before I knew much about Fantasy, I put my Daemons on square bases to use in both systems. One Fantasy game later and I haven't used them ranked up since. They are far too powerful.

[warp spider]

A word of warning though, Daemons in Fantasy are very powerful. Fantasy has horrible balance issues at the moment.

 

I was like you - before I knew much about Fantasy, I put my Daemons on square bases to use in both systems. One Fantasy game later and I haven't used them ranked up since. They are far too powerful.

I have heard of this - thats why im going for round bases on movment trays.

 

I only have one friend who plays fantasy - the rest are 40k, so im not going to start a entirly new army that i can only use with him - with daemons i can get the best of both worlds.

[wiplash]

http://www.gf9.com/store/product_info.php?...products_id=103

 

They do have UK suppliers.

so are these simply pieces of plywood lasercut, or whole bases? (Either would work for me)

 

you can get them at the hobbycraft near us :P

[warp spider]

http://www.gf9.com/store/product_info.php?...products_id=103

 

They do have UK suppliers.

so are these simply pieces of plywood lasercut, or whole bases? (Either would work for me)

 

you can get them at the hobbycraft near us :)

I am aware they sell the magnetic bases, just not sure about the plywood thingys.

[10thkingdom]

I chose Daemons as my second army (behind my Dark Angles) for precisely the same reason, I can use them in both games. I based them all on round bases so that I could then magnitize the bases and put them on square bases for Fantasy games (round on top of square). I friend of mine who used to manage a GW gave me an even better idea. Use the round bases on the movement trays but fill in the gaps left by the bases by using the little metal skulls that you can get from GW. I loved the idea and have bought the skulls and once I can get me some more movement trays I am going to go that route. Skulls work awesome for fillers cause it's daemons!!

[warp spider]

Skulls might be pushing it (how much would that cost :0 - which ones do you mean?), but filling the gaps is effectivly what the cut holes do above. Like the lotr war of the ring trays - except 5 across a hopefully closer together.

 

Filling them with somthing could work though (and be cost effective). You might end up with the models stuck in place due th the slight skirt that the round base has...

[S. Bloodhowl]

One way Ive thought of is this:

-Buy fantasy movement trays and some foam card (that stuff that's like 2 bits of card with a piece of foam stuff between)

-Using the 25mm squares (same width as round base diameter) make the movement trays to the size wanted, then with the foam card cut out a piece to fit into the tray,

-Take the round bases and ranke the up in a straight line in accordance to rank and file sizes and trace around their edges (easier on at a time)

-With it all traced cut out the circles and trim if necessary, the bases should all slot in and out easily,

-Finish by basing the tray to match your bases

 

It is sound in theory but i have yet to try it (too many projects :D )

[warp spider]

One way Ive thought of is this:

-Buy fantasy movement trays and some foam card (that stuff that's like 2 bits of card with a piece of foam stuff between)

-Using the 25mm squares (same width as round base diameter) make the movement trays to the size wanted, then with the foam card cut out a piece to fit into the tray,

-Take the round bases and ranke the up in a straight line in accordance to rank and file sizes and trace around their edges (easier on at a time)

-With it all traced cut out the circles and trim if necessary, the bases should all slot in and out easily,

-Finish by basing the tray to match your bases

 

It is sound in theory but i have yet to try it (too many projects :rolleyes: )

Nice idea - I had thought of this - but there are some issues with it:

 

- Foamboard is higher than your average base (unless you use somthing else)

- cutting out perfect circles would be near imposssible

[raganrkob]

just a comment about daemons being broken: well I'm a fantasy player (just started with 40k) and my best friend has daemons and I can tell you the balance problems are not as horrible as people want them to be. The thing with daemons in fantasy is that you have to change your gameplay and your strategies more than with any other army and they are very very powerful but they can be beaten.

 

The problem is even less important in friendly play. Daemons can be really fun to play against ;)

 

About the bases, just measure the size of each rank and each file and stick your minis with blu-tac of magnetize them to the tray, that should be enough. It's simple but efective

[the jeske]

another words if you tailor your army to beat demons and do just that the army works. dude that sucks hard. you know what would happen to w40k if on all point brakets played a single codex would dominate all other unless the army is specificly tailored to take it out ?

[raganrkob]

Thats not what I meant. I'm talking about how you play the game, not about list-writing. The thing is that most strategies (redirection, hammer&anvil and such) work in a different way with daemons than they do with other armies because of their special rules. I'm not saying that there isn't a balance issue, of course there is and the tournament scene shows that. But in casual play once you get used to play against them you start to understand that they can be beaten, don't expect a massacre though :P

[eyescrossed]

Dude, almost everything in the Army Book is underpriced or ignores the core rules (such as Daemonic Gifts, essentially Magic Items, being able to be taken multiple times).