Pre Heresy DA Vehicles.

[Skirax]

Hi, I thought I'd post my first list for the Tempus Fugitives weekend so you guys know why I need help;

 

Invasion Force – 1000 points

HQ

Brother Redemptor Kastigus – 160 points

 

Elites

Sternguard Squad Cyndor’s Redeemers – 270 points

Battle Sergeant Cyndor, Techmarine, Combi-flamer, Heavy Flamer, Plasma Gun

 

Troops

Tactical Squad El’Longar – 195 points

+5 members, Plasma Pistol

 

Tactical Squad El’Kartz – 205 points

+5 members, Power Fist

 

Rhino Swift Redemption – 35 points

 

Heavy Support

Vindicator Angelic Redemption – 130 points

Extra Armour

 

Now the list is completely legal by their rules, trust me; but what do I paint the vehicles? Black, like the Legion? Or do I paint them Green? What about Venerable Dreadnoughts? Are they bone? Green? Or Black, like the rest of them?

 

Thanks in advance, I may post my Kastigus if I get a chance.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

Well black was before being reunited with El'Johnson, with the DA becoming green after.

 

Bone is purely a HH/Aftermath thing I believe.

 

So, if its during the GC then green unless you are doing GC before the recovery of El'J.

[Skirax]

Well, I know that actually only his favoured *ie, the Calibanites* wore green armour, but mine's Lutherite in the Seige of Caliban, so.... Black, like the rest of them, then?

[Captain Juan Juarez]

As far as I'm aware the entire Legion wore green armour after the unification, but if you are intending to fluff up as the followers of luther then you can go back to black and say that they changed to disassociate themselves with their brethren.

[Skirax]

Yay! :P

[Raven Angel]

Actuall the Bone is a way after HH thing. Story goes like this 5 DW termies returned to their homeworld(world they were recruted from) to find it firmly in the grip of a massive Genestealer infestation. As was the custom of the tribes of that world the SM painted their black aurmor bone white marking themselves as ghost warriors and signifing that they where already dead. They then set about clensing the infestation. They eventually destoryied all the Genestealers but died in the process. When the DAs returned and learned of their sacrifice to save the world they chose to change the colors of the whole DW to honor there sacrifice.

[EPK]

As far as I'm aware the entire Legion wore green armour after the unification, but if you are intending to fluff up as the followers of luther then you can go back to black and say that they changed to disassociate themselves with their brethren.

 

Actually, I believe Skirax may be partially right per a Heresy book. The short story "Call of the Lion" in Tales of Heresy depicts the that it was still norm even after unification to wear black armor. In fact, the green color was only introduced to one shoulder pad at first (DA symbol on green). Perhaps it was a more gradual process?

 

Spoiler

 

In the mentioned story, Astelan notes fellow commander Belath's atypical armor coloring (green should pad). Belath informed him that the Lion allowed native Calibanites to wear such armor. Of course this also throws me, because that would include many of the Fallen... which actually wear black.

 

 

More on topic though, painting them all the black legion scheme should be fine. I highly doubt repainting thousands of suits of power armor happened over night.

[Terrahawk]

Actually the whole Legion wore black as a primary colour until after the Horus Heresy. In IA: Dark Angels there's the following description under the green power armour: Changed to dark green for unknown reasons following the Horus Heresy.

 

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the change was because of the Fall. Maybe a sign of penance and also a way to distinguish yourself from the Fallen. Or if we take Call of the Lion into the equation, it might also be a way to honour the destroyed homeworld.

[Cloud Runner]

Much of a muchness to be fair.

 

There's a few background things that hint that Jonson's favoured wore green armour in the Heresy.

 

hence me not repainting my army for the event!!!

 

Note to Skirax - if it's a Lutherite gaming weekend you want, you need to play people that are younger than you, so personal age plays a big part. At 31 and a Lion fan, I think I may be switching back n forth depending upon opponents.

 

Hope that all helps

[Vodunius]

Actually the whole Legion wore black as a primary colour until after the Horus Heresy. In IA: Dark Angels there's the following description under the green power armour: Changed to dark green for unknown reasons following the Horus Heresy.

 

Bear in mind thats old fluff, plus the labelling of IA art isn't an exact science, the Armageddon 3 IA article for instance mislabels several Founding dates as well as misidentifying a Space Wolf Pack marking.

 

Addendum: Actually, I quite like that bit about them mixing green & black armour on their armour - Space Marine 1st edition came with two-colour banners, with the various patterns serving to distinguish detachments, the Dark Angel banners were black and green.

[Terrahawk]

Actually the whole Legion wore black as a primary colour until after the Horus Heresy. In IA: Dark Angels there's the following description under the green power armour: Changed to dark green for unknown reasons following the Horus Heresy.

 

Bear in mind thats old fluff, plus the labelling of IA art isn't an exact science, the Armageddon 3 IA article for instance mislabels several Founding dates as well as misidentifying a Space Wolf Pack marking.

 

Addendum: Actually, I quite like that bit about them mixing green & black armour on their armour - Space Marine 1st edition came with two-colour banners, with the various patterns serving to distinguish detachments, the Dark Angel banners were black and green.

 

It sure is, but since there isn't anything new concerning this aspect of the Chapter I think it's valid. Even Gav made sure not to have Belath in full dark green armour.