Why GH can ultra grit but WG can't ?

[Verseau]

Why GH can ultra grit but WG can't ???

 

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The rule says:

"Any Wolf Guard model may replace bolt pistol and/or close combat weapon with"

 

C:SM 5e pg.128

"Where an option states that you may exchanged one weapon 'and/or' another, you may replace either, neither or both provided you pay the stated points cost"

doesn't that means WG can add boltgun but still keeping his bolt pistol and CCW ?

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Just as Logan have Relentless which could aspire the unit he joined.

 

I am thinking:

10 WG PA bolt pistol CCW + boltgun which is free = 180 point

 

 

Dont you think it will be cool to have Logan + WG

Move > Rapid Fire (22 shoots) > Assault (46 attacks)

its total 68 hits!!!

[Stormshrug]

Huh. That does sound suspiciously like that works, actually.

 

I have it on p. 128 of the codex, though. Regional printing thing, maybe? In any case, I expect odd shenanigans to ensue from this, if it actually works the way it looks like it should.

 

-Stormshrug

[CarlSkaven]

Huh. That does sound suspiciously like that works, actually.

 

I have it on p. 128 of the codex, though. Regional printing thing, maybe? In any case, I expect odd shenanigans to ensue from this, if it actually works the way it looks like it should.

 

-Stormshrug

 

 

Can we???

[Verseau]

Huh. That does sound suspiciously like that works, actually.

 

I have it on p. 128 of the codex, though. Regional printing thing, maybe? In any case, I expect odd shenanigans to ensue from this, if it actually works the way it looks like it should.

 

-Stormshrug

 

oops p 128 :D

edited, thx

 

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Now we can only wait for the Wolf Lord / Wolf Guard / Rune Priest / Wolf Priest (Admin / Mod) in here to confirm this rule.

 

Just imagine there's a greedy WG which collecting all of the weapon available for him:

Wolf Guard in Power Armor with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon

DONT PUT UP POINT COST OF ITEMS

TOTAL 211pt

 

with that many weapons, he could deal anything crosses his path !!! :P

[Marshal Wilhelm]

You can't grab rules from a different Codex, even if it talking about the same thing, and then implement it with your Codex.

 

The Wolf guard has a pistol + sword

He can have a gun + pistol

He can have a gun + sword

 

That is just the way it is.

 

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Where it says either/neither/both (which is page 128, btw) it means you can buy one item (and therefore replace one item), you can buy no items (and therefore replace no items) or you can buy two items (and therefore replace both items) :D

 

So what you have quoted does not work the way you thought it did, anyway.

[NovaScotius]

Though I'd like it to work, I don't think it should work. The "either, neither or both" part is a little ambiguous; the "neither" part most likely referring to the fact that you are not compelled to take different options and give up your original kit.

 

Also, the Wolf Guard entry uses the word "replace", suggesting that you have to give up the original equipment to take the Bolter.

 

If I took away your Bolt Pistol and gave you a Bolter, I have 'replaced' your Bolt Pistol.

 

If I give you a Bolter without taking any of your original equipment away, what is it that you have 'replaced' with the Bolter?

 

Though I'd like it to work, I don't think it does :D

[Stormshrug]

Edit: Good point, Willhelm. Although I think you could make a case for RAW because of poor wording, RAI is clear. Still, dual-wielding combi-weapons is totally in!

 

-Stormshrug

[Grey Mage]

Excuse me, but that wording in C:SM is to allow a person to not exchange ANY of the options and keep the base equipment.

[Stormshrug]

Excuse me, but that wording in C:SM is to allow a person to not exchange ANY of the options and keep the base equipment.

 

You're definitely right that that's what they meant. The wording is obnoxiously ambiguous, though.

 

-Stormshrug

[SpaceWolf13C]

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

[Verseau]

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

 

yeah, that's my bad.

since i am a blood claw not only to space wolves, but also to mini wargaming,

i misundertands it,

I thought i need to learn all of the 3 books (40k Core Rule Book, Codex:SM, n Codex:SW) to allowed me to play 40k.

 

now i know i dont need the codex:SM, right ?

i just need core rulebook n codex:SW.

 

thanx wolf brother

for once again patiently teaching this inexperienced blood claw.

[Grey Mage]

Quite alright... the learning curve would be alot harder if everyone had to learn every codex in the game!

 

But, that being said once you have a solid grasp of all of our rules, and all the main rules, feel free to read other armies aswell- its always good to know your opponents abilities and you might find another army youd like to play.

[The Trickster]

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

 

Though it does not matter. I would just point out that the wording from page 128 og C:SM also is i C:SW on page 81 under options.

[whitewolfmxc]

although it doesnt work as the OP thought , +1 point for bringing up (kind of) that there's no rule in any codex or rulebook saying a model can only take a certain amount of weapon

 

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

 

Though it does not matter. I would just point out that the wording from page 128 og C:SM also is i C:SW on page 81 under options.

 

 

True indeed

[Verseau]

although it doesnt work as the OP thought , +1 point for bringing up (kind of) that there's no rule in any codex or rulebook saying a model can only take a certain amount of weapon

 

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

 

Though it does not matter. I would just point out that the wording from page 128 og C:SM also is i C:SW on page 81 under options.

 

 

True indeed

 

So ???

is that means WG can also ultra grit ???

since i love to have a WG with Storm Bolter + Double Wolf Claws

[Sarapham]

although it doesnt work as the OP thought , +1 point for bringing up (kind of) that there's no rule in any codex or rulebook saying a model can only take a certain amount of weapon

 

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

 

Though it does not matter. I would just point out that the wording from page 128 og C:SM also is i C:SW on page 81 under options.

 

 

True indeed

 

So ???

is that means WG can also ultra grit ???

since i love to have a WG with Storm Bolter + Double Wolf Claws

 

 

No, cause the wording says you always have to exchange something to get something new.

[TopToffee]

clutching at straws MORE than a little bit here...

[whitewolfmxc]

although it doesnt work as the OP thought , +1 point for bringing up (kind of) that there's no rule in any codex or rulebook saying a model can only take a certain amount of weapon

 

its also in another codex therefore it doesn't pertain to us

 

Though it does not matter. I would just point out that the wording from page 128 og C:SM also is i C:SW on page 81 under options.

 

 

True indeed

 

So ???

is that means WG can also ultra grit ???

since i love to have a WG with Storm Bolter + Double Wolf Claws

 

im making a fairly simple point , if the WG entry says something like , the model may take blah blah for X points , you can take as much as you want (my first point theres no more rule saying you can only take X amount of wargear of points or weapons for a model) , but since it says replace no you cant keep on buying without losing something

[pucadubh]

You can't grab rules from a different Codex, even if it talking about the same thing, and then implement it with your Codex.

 

I agree with your interpretation of the rule in question, but as an aside, isn't the fact that other Codexes were jumping for joy about countercharge the reason that our FAQ was FAQ'd so quickly to remove furious countercharge! :D