Why 'Wolf Wing'

[BlackSpike]

and if they feel like an argument, i would probably get my best impression of Dr. Cox(from Scrubs) going and basically work the fact that i wont move from my position to call it what i want and hope they respect it.

 

I'll respect you're choice to call "Logan plus terminators as troops" whatever you like, so long as you respect my choice to call them "WolfWing". ;)

 

If you don't like Emo dress-wearers, don't steal their tactics! Stick with power-armour Wolf Guard!

 

:P

[Ullr Direfang]

that's my point basically.

 

and i would never steal tactics from the DA:DW, to me they are a different play style then SW and i probably wont every run logan......

[Azza007]

I have to say that today is the first time I have heard this term, granted been away from the boards for few months. First reaction was what the flip, then onto thinking it suits more the landspeeder/bike aspect of the SW, more of Ravenwing style. I would have thought a more suitable name for the WG as troops, something more martial, Wolf Wing suggests speed to me not the martial might of experienced vets.

[Verseau]

Once a term has been coined and used by others, it is near impossible to re-christen it. Sorry. :)

 

Deathwing were the Terminator force, thus anyone following the pioneers/trend setters, etc. would always be dubbed in like terms because Deathwing are the yard stick for all other Terminator forces.

 

This next bit isn't meant to sound harsh/critical, but if you try to rename it with a tough/cool name, people will think you are trying too hard and/or ask; do you mean Wolfwing?

 

I think you'll be on a hiding to nothing. Have I encouraged you with my wet blanket? :(

 

then it's settled

i will called mine "Deathwolves" :)

 

it's in like terms with Deathwing AND...

it's sound cooler, deadlier, brutal-er, savag-er, etc-er, and etc-er

 

it's just fits us

 

*Howling.........*

[Wispy]

I think it's silly how hard you guys are trying to find a badass name everyone can agree to. :(

[Kenmichi]

Back when Lysander gave people Termies, it was Lysanderwing. Ultramarines using the Deathwing list are the Ultrawing.

 

You guys are the Wolfwing. Have fun. :rolleyes:

 

If you aren't using Terminators, then it might not be a Wolfwing. But otherwise, it is.

 

And you are "The Namer of all Things", I presume?

[Marshal Wilhelm]

Deathwing were the Terminator force, thus anyone following the pioneers/trend setters, etc. would always be dubbed in like terms because Deathwing are the yard stick for all other Terminator forces.

 

The problem is that the Dark Angels also have a Ravenwing and an Ironwing.

 

If we had a character that gave us access to full bike/tank lists, would we call those forces Wolfwing as well?

 

I am not arguing for or against Wolfwing, I am saying that you'll have a hard time breaking that name off.

a] it's already been associated with Logan's Terminators and once a term is in use, it sticks.

b] it echoes the original all-Terminator force, Deathwing

c] it is easily recognisable and it's meaning is clear ~ the SW version of Deathwing

d] it is a neat two syllable 'sound-bite'. People like that, that's why ad companies spend hours working on neat catch-cries for their products.

 

Saying that all three versions would be Wolfwing doesn't make sense ~ the DA have three distinct names, why would SW spam the same name?

When you borrow something from an outside source, it doesn't mean you have to use anything/everything else from that source or use it verbatim.

 

Back when Lysander gave people Termies, it was Lysanderwing. Ultramarines using the Deathwing list are the Ultrawing.

You guys are the Wolfwing. Have fun. :unsure: If you aren't using Terminators, then it might not be a Wolfwing. But otherwise, it is.

And you are "The Namer of all Things", I presume?

 

He is. He doesn't like flaunting it though, it can get people's backs up. <_<

 

I think he is saying that because the term is in usage and people know what it means, you're going to have to accept it or work really hard to reverse and re-brand them....

 

I hope your campaign goes well or you come to a place of tranquility and embrace Wxxxxxxg.... :rolleyes:

 

The Emperor protects

*makes the sign of the Aquila*

[Sawtooth]

I think Wolf Wing just flows off the tongue better. I blame the alliteration.

 

At this point I think it's kind of ingrained in popular Warhammer terminology. Like beardy, or deathstar.

[AdeptusDavidus]

I like "Logan's Heroes", but I opt to use that one for lists featuring Logan and Wolf Guard in power armour, and go with "Wolfwing" for the terminators-as-troops lists.

 

Why? 'Cause every termies-as-troops list is a -wing. It's just less explanation that way.

[Silverwolf]

and if they feel like an argument, i would probably get my best impression of Dr. Cox(from Scrubs) going and basically work the fact that i wont move from my position to call it what i want and hope they respect it.

 

I'll respect you're choice to call "Logan plus terminators as troops" whatever you like, so long as you respect my choice to call them "WolfWing". ;)

 

If you don't like Emo dress-wearers, don't steal their tactics! Stick with power-armour Wolf Guard!

 

;)

 

lol, their tactics?

 

Hate to break it to you, but the DA are a fairly generic Codex Astartes chapter... being that 1st Company is the veteran company... ie, Termies (or at the least veteran squads that have the option to wear termie armour)... oh and having a fast attack company is hardly a DA thing either...

 

The only difference is that the DA get a seperate 'dex to most Chapters, and so GW went into a bit more detail with them and allowed you to acctually pick a specific company to run with, whereas with normal SM chapters you have to do the standard thing, which is run a generic combat company, with support from the Vet, Fast, and Armoured companies of the chapter.

 

In that manner, us wolves do have something that could loosely be described as a 1st Company, being that the majority of the Wolf Guard, and all of our Dreadnoughts, Wolf Scouts, and Priests, are part of a special company that answers only to the current Great Wolf. Our Great Wolf then decides whether the current mission of a Great Company requires some support from this "1st Company".

 

There the similarity ends. Aside from those units mentioned, a Great Company is an entity unto itself, able to act completely independently of the rest of the Chapter, with it's own vehicles, fast attack units, support crews, and even it's own space fleet. Each Wolf Lord usually also having a personal retinue of Wolf Guard from among his own Great Company, usually members of his original pack.

 

 

So no, the fact that taking a chapter's Chapter Master allows a player to take "1st Company" units as troops is a perfectly legit option for ANY SM chapter, and frankly should probably be allowed, it's just that GW is GW :). Having a 1st Company, is not something that is special to the DAs. It's just that at some point, some GW staff member's little kid decided he wanted daddy to give his favourite chapter their own special codex... Don't you just love that regardless of what GW does to our fluff, the old Space Wolf vs Dark Angels animosity still lives on in the hearts of all of us ;) :P

 

 

Oh... and I'm sticking with Logan's Heroes :huh:, much better name.

[Ullr Direfang]

yes i think it is great that SW/DA and SW/1KS still hold each other in such..... "high regards".

 

have to say "i like this thread! it's exciting!" (aka i find it amusing, in the not laughing at people, but (hopefully) laughing with them kind of way)

[Silverwolf]

haha, mate of mine has DeathWing, we used to duke it out on the TT all the time :rolleyes:.

 

Best one was 15 DW, DW Librarian, and a DW Ven Dread walk in one side of a building... 30 Blood Claws walk in the other... 1 P.Fist BC walks out :wub:

 

But a 'lil off topic :)

 

I'm sorry but "Wolf Wing" just sounds like nails on a black board to me. "Logan's Heroes" is funny, fairly clever, and just seems to sit nicely. If I think of anything better I'll post it.

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

i am pscyhed to see Logan's Heroes being so accepted!

 

i didnt create the name, but think it works fairly well as it is used for the Wolf Guard regardless of their armament.

 

WLK

[HsojVvad]

the dark angels all terminator formation is called the deathwing, when it was announced logan could do something very similar it became known as wolfwing. thats that

Wolf Wing? No no my brothers. It's not Wolfwing, us DA players call it Pupwing. :rolleyes:

 

I am just kidding, having some rivalery fun. I am not serious, just trying to have fun. If anyone is offended, I am sorry, it is not my intention. I havn't seen a good DA SW rivalry jokes in a while. Is it still allowed? I see it in the DA forum but not for a long time.

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

the dark angels all terminator formation is called the deathwing, when it was announced logan could do something very similar it became known as wolfwing. thats that

Wolf Wing? No no my brothers. It's not Wolfwing, us DA players call it Pupwing. :rolleyes:

 

I am just kidding, having some rivalery fun. I am not serious, just trying to have fun. If anyone is offended, I am sorry, it is not my intention. I havn't seen a good DA SW rivalry jokes in a while. Is it still allowed? I see it in the DA forum but not for a long time.

 

Dont worry my dress wearing sister, here in the Fang jokes are still aloud.

 

WLK

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

the dark angels all terminator formation is called the deathwing, when it was announced logan could do something very similar it became known as wolfwing. thats that

Wolf Wing? No no my brothers. It's not Wolfwing, us DA players call it Pupwing. :rolleyes:

 

I am just kidding, having some rivalery fun. I am not serious, just trying to have fun. If anyone is offended, I am sorry, it is not my intention. I havn't seen a good DA SW rivalry jokes in a while. Is it still allowed? I see it in the DA forum but not for a long time.

 

Dont worry my dress wearing sister, here in the Fang jokes are still allowed.

 

WLK

[Marshal Wilhelm]

"Actually, your a black templar right? Thats like Space Wolf light...the diet coke of awesome."

- Wolf Lord Kieran @ Marshal2 Crusaders

 

*sound of record abruptly stopping* What? What?! What?!!

 

You Scurvy dog! Scallywag! Bounder! Cad! Varmit! Scoundrel! Villain! Rogue! Rascal! Weasel! Snake! Snake in the grass! Miscreant! Reprobate! Scamp! Beast! Rat! Ratfink! Louse! Swine! Skunk! Blackguard! and Knave!

 

*shakes fist at WLK*

 

Well everyone knows that artificial sweetner makes Coke even more dangerous than it is without it.

See what I did there? hmmm? turned your insult into a thesis on why the Templars are even more awesome than the Wolves! How d'ya like that? Don't worry, first lesson's free!

 

*clicks fingers together multiple times, whilst flapping that arm around, and moving head from side to side, then storms out*

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

how is it that, after all our strange visitors, we STILL leave the gates to the Fang open?

 

WLK

[OnlyInDeath]

"Actually, your a black templar right? Thats like Space Wolf light...the diet coke of awesome."

- Wolf Lord Kieran @ Marshal2 Crusaders

 

*sound of record abruptly stopping* What? What?! What?!!

 

You Scurvy dog! Scallywag! Bounder! Cad! Varmit! Scoundrel! Villain! Rogue! Rascal! Weasel! Snake! Snake in the grass! Miscreant! Reprobate! Scamp! Beast! Rat! Ratfink! Louse! Swine! Skunk! Blackguard! and Knave!

 

*shakes fist at WLK*

 

Well everyone knows that artificial sweetner makes Coke even more dangerous than it is without it.

See what I did there? hmmm? turned your insult into a thesis on why the Templars are even more awesome than the Wolves! How d'ya like that? Don't worry, first lesson's free!

 

*clicks fingers together multiple times, whilst flapping that arm around, and moving head from side to side, then storms out*

 

Would it be non-PC to say "hey look, the Salamanders have arrived?"

 

Nothing personal, just find it funny that they are the only pigmented people in the entire 40k era...

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

"Actually, your a black templar right? Thats like Space Wolf light...the diet coke of awesome."

- Wolf Lord Kieran @ Marshal2 Crusaders

 

*sound of record abruptly stopping* What? What?! What?!!

 

You Scurvy dog! Scallywag! Bounder! Cad! Varmit! Scoundrel! Villain! Rogue! Rascal! Weasel! Snake! Snake in the grass! Miscreant! Reprobate! Scamp! Beast! Rat! Ratfink! Louse! Swine! Skunk! Blackguard! and Knave!

 

*shakes fist at WLK*

 

Well everyone knows that artificial sweetner makes Coke even more dangerous than it is without it.

See what I did there? hmmm? turned your insult into a thesis on why the Templars are even more awesome than the Wolves! How d'ya like that? Don't worry, first lesson's free!

 

*clicks fingers together multiple times, whilst flapping that arm around, and moving head from side to side, then storms out*

 

Would it be non-PC to say "hey look, the Salamanders have arrived?"

 

Nothing personal, just find it funny that they are the only pigmented people in the entire 40k era...

 

and now they are daemonic looking figures with charcoal black skin and red eyes...

by the All-Father i hate matt ward.

 

WLK

[whiteridder]

The Kraken brothers???

[Verseau]

ow no one like the term "DeathWolf"

 

*pick up a barrel of ale*

and

*drinking it heartily to drown his sadness*

[Demonslayer]

By Russ what have I started Ha Ha Ha *between the gulps of ale*

 

And the reason *in a drunken commanding slurring voice* we leave the Fang open, is, is because *steadies himself from falling over* we always lose the keys, and I mite add my ale gets delivered quicker

[Silverwolf]

*sneaks a keg away from one of the young pups and cracks it open, filling his mug*

 

Well, if we didn't leave the front gates open, the only people we'd have in here to make fun of are the young pups, and although a good general melee over the kegs is always a good laugh, we can't always be beating on the poor pups... so we let our dress wearing sisters in from time to time to give the pups someone they can acctually beat in a fight :P.

 

*points at the nearest blood claw* You... Pup... You know that Wilhelm lad over there stole your keg right? You going to let him get away with that?

[Marshal Wilhelm]

*sneaks a keg away from one of the young pups and cracks it open, filling his mug*

 

Well, if we didn't leave the front gates open, the only people we'd have in here to make fun of are the young pups, and although a good general melee over the kegs is always a good laugh, we can't always be beating on the poor pups... so we let our dress wearing sisters in from time to time to give the pups someone they can acctually beat in a fight :D.

 

*points at the nearest blood claw* You... Pup... You know that Wilhelm lad over there stole your keg right? You going to let him get away with that?

 

*glowers at approaching blood claw* I didn't take your keg!

*blood claw leaps at Marshal Wilhelm* Berzerk charge me, will ye? *judo chop, blood claw crashes to the ground* i5 knave, chew on that! Didn't you know, everyone is my preferred enemy?!

*shows bag to semi-conscious blood claw* It's European!.... alright! it's a man-bag! Dante gave it to me! okay?!

*continues walking towards the always open gates*