Simo429 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 ive gone out of order with the heresy do to my dad losing fallen angels and me being too cheap to buy another copy, luckily the dark angels story is a bit of a side event however it did leave me with a question on reading 1ksons it seems that the chaplains where set up after nikea and id guess nikea was before the heresy started or at least before it came into the BIG E's knowledge so how are there both librarians and chaplains in the first legion in this book? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyear Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 The first book actually ends with the Psyker character being knocked back from being a Libbie to being a normal Battle-Brother. So obviously the whole "End it with the Librarian stuff" was after the end of Decent of Angels. Because when Fallen Angels starts he's just a normal battle-brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2350023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissah Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Inthe beginning of Fallen Angeles the causins are a Chaplain and a Librarian. So the whole Nikea stuff is after Descent of Angels and Fallen Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2350059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Well Horus was at Isstvan III while Fallen Angels was going on and Nikea was just after Ullanor. I doubt that in the time between them leaving for Nikea and them arriving that the events in the first 3 HH books could have taken place. I think Nikea was also mentioned in False Gods if memory serves correctly. I'm pretty sure Fallen Angels is after Nikea. The DA left on Calican were hardly pro-Imperium at the time and this also assumes they had received and fully processed the orders at that point. Put simply either they got the order and ignored it or they hadn't got the message at that point in the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2350119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamicspartan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Didn't it say in 1ksons that Magnus doubts that many legions would disband their librarians? Even though the Big E told em all to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2350458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astalon Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 The first book actually ends with the Psyker character being knocked back from being a Libbie to being a normal Battle-Brother. So obviously the whole "End it with the Librarian stuff" was after the end of Decent of Angels. Because when Fallen Angels starts he's just a normal battle-brother. what? No he isn't. It mentions he is a 'brother librarian' a number of times in fallen angels, and the psychic exercises brother-librarian isfrael (again uses that title) has had him doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2351292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyear Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Like I said, it's been a while since I read the book so the story is a little foggy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2354698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Fallen Angels mainly takes place AFTER the Drop Site Massacre, with El'Jonson predicting that Horus is going to need certain weapons in order to take Terra. Need to go back over the first part of the book and check on any time table mentioned separating Descent of Angels' ending. Chaplains, however, predate the ruling at Nikea. Erebus is a chaplain of the Word Bearers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2355899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 But if it's after the Dropsite Massacre why does he give the weapons to Perturabo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2356587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Yeah, it's been a while since I read it but I'm pretty sure it was either during Isstvan III or between III and V. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2356595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdenaar Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 He didn't know Peturabo was a traitor. The book takes place after Istvaan III but before the Drop Site Massacre though i'll admit its been a long while since I read it. The other theory people put about is that Lion El'Jonson is being smart and playing both sides but I personally believe that's hogwash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197209-a-question-regarding-fallen-angels/#findComment-2356848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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