Terrible_Trygon Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 They look a little dull, but I guess it is early stages. To be honest, I have found this project slightly disappointing, as the marines still have terminator arms, terminator lack of abdomen and bow legged terminator poses. With your work on scratch sculpting loads of demons I thought you could pull off marines that look more like marines and less like terminator conversions. As for the dreads, I think the leg modifications you have planned might look alright. I'd like to have seen them scaled up, but that's just me. Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2562738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Kudos mate, that looks like a lot of manhours has gone into this! Following the thread with great interest!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2562831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 Ahh...updates. Let's start with the Marshal shall we: Marshal Uther: Added some bling and cleaned him up. He still needs new shoulder pads though. http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8453.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8454.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8460.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8459.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8455.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8456.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8457.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8458.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 This is an example of the level of detail each marine is getting: http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8449.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8451.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8452.jpg And for scaling purposes, here's a Templar with an guardsman and a foul Xeno: http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8522.jpg There are many more pics than these but I'm pressed for time this morning. More Later!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 only just seen this, OMG this is so awesome, I am in awe of you..... Would be so pleased with my self if I even made 1 ts marine, let alone 2 companies worth... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 Chaplain Mordred: Say how many skull, can a chaplain wear before it becomes tacky? -_- So far he has "9" skulls both literal and ornamental adorning him. Still I'm considering the large skull shoulder pads from the WF Chaos Knights sprue, and perhaps a backpack mounted shrine. Hmmm..... http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8462.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8463.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8461.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8464.jpg Crusaders: Here are but a few examples of my Initiates. Note that none of these models have shoulder pads as those will be getting painted separate as will all the shields. http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8473.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8474.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8471.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8472.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8466.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8468.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8469.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8470.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8486.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8488.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8487.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8482.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8485.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8479.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8481.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8477.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8478.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8473.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8475.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8471.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8472.jpg The full crusade as it stands now: http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8520.jpg Dreadnought updates to follow. More Soon.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Are you true scaling your dreads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 The dreads will be get slightly bigger, say twice the height of a marine. I won;t make them wider as their already too wide. What they need is more depth. The main thing with them will be building new working legs that can actually move. That;s going to take sometime to get the first set right, then I'll "magic" the other ones. The key there is a getting a working knee joint. That and the hydraulic hoses and cabling will be more form fitting rather that hanging out waiting to get chopped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarasinCreed Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 This is great stuff. Some poses are a little orcward(spelling) for instance the powerfist and flaming spear guy. But over all really nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I used sentinel legs(not all of them) for my Bjorn's legs. I based it of this http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/talking_goth/m1030007a_2010-03-15_1_873x627.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotgunFacelift Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Awesome work so far, especially the detail work you putting in it. I really like the dynamic poses your getting with all the figures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Man when I clicked on this I was like "I totally hate BTs and "Actual" scale marines." Consider my opinion changed. Perhaps only in relation to your work. I think Trygon is a little right that they still look like termies, but they have different enough proportions that it doesn't matter. They read as marines. I like all the conversion and kid bashing and stamping and sculpting you have done, all the details are very sharp. The only thing I'm not convinced of are some of the poses. It's probably a personal feeling I have about "dynamic" marines. But some of them look a bit awkward. But there are also some very strong poses. All in all A+. Now you need a BT Girl and you'll be all set :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Seriously. Whats up with you and female marines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I was....being funny....after I made....some....suggestions to the OP? Tough crowd I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarasinCreed Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Seriously. Whats up with you and female marines? You know what they say if you cant have barbies go for the next best thing :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril hound Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Homes. Female marines are illogical, cos' with space marines war is very lumberjacky(chain-swords, power fists etc)- and we all know men make better lumberjacks. Now- for a shooting race, I have no problem with women... but space marines? Men just decapitate people with oversized weapons better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Fantastic models, cant wait to see them painted :) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2575995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 I used sentinel legs(not all of them) for my Bjorn's legs. I based it of this http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/talking_goth/m1030007a_2010-03-15_1_873x627.jpg Okay, I'm sold on that idea. That dread is huge! Kid Famous The Punch: You know I want to do some at least a Fem-marine kill team someday. Oh the gnashing of the teeth!!! :rolleyes: Honestly though I like the gender split that the have in "Starship Troopers" the book mind you not the power armor-less movie. Dudes do the ground pounding, while babes in slinky anime bodysuits crew and crew the warships. :P Captain Mick Thanks, I be painting a couple test minis this week, to try out Zenithal Highlighting the Black. The horde still needs some putting and sanding in places. Then I have the banners, tabards, belts, and chain mail to GS. I learned a super-quick way to do the chain-mail, so I do a small tutorial on that. There will also be a number of GS banners in the army. One of my favorite images from "Kingdom of Heaven" is all the banners and pennants carries by the crusaders. ShotgunFacelift Thanks! HarasinCreed Yeah, I don't relay like the handle on the torch, its to thick. I'll replace that. What don't you like about the pose specifically? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2576142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Bloodhowl Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Great stuff as usual Sersi, how is the painting going? Hope the advice is working. I used sentinel legs(not all of them) for my Bjorn's legs. I based it of this http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/talking_goth/m1030007a_2010-03-15_1_873x627.jpg That's awesome, have the arms been extended as well? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2576152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 It seems like fate that I find your Actual Scale BT thread as I myself have been toying around with the idea of an Actual Scale BT army for a year or so and this is truly inspiring me to get my arse in gear and go for it. Amazing work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2576592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarasinCreed Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 It looks a bit like his upper body is leaning forwards while his legs are leaning backwards. It might work out fine though when he gets some shoulder pads though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2576670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Your chaplain is sooo damned cool looking. Your army looks great now. I can't imagine it when they're painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2576970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Okay....Dreadnoughts: Small update on a few of the dreads. I'm scratch-building new fully articulated legs for them, but for the time being here are the torsos, and some weapons arms. [Honored Brother - Geoffrey: "For his Grace and Glory!" http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8489.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8490.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8491.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8492.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8493.jpg - I can't for the life of me, remember where I poached the idea of the bell from. Any way the bells fro the Vampire Counts Corpse Cart. Honored Brother - Borin: "We are instruments of the Emperor, extension of his grace and fury. Our lives are solely his to command. http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8502.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8503.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8504.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8505.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8506.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8507.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8508.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2586521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Honored Brother - Simon: "Faith in the Emperor is all. He is the light that guides, the warmth that succors, and the fire that purges. None are spared the touch of his wrath! he is the light, the might and the way..." http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8509.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8510.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8511.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8512.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8513.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8514.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Fifth_miracle/Actual%20Scale%20Black%20Templars/IMG_8515.jpg Honored Brother - Letholdus: "Pain is an illusion of the senses, despair an illusion of the mind." Pending Photographs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/197849-steel-zeal-an-actual-scale-black-templar-crusade/page/5/#findComment-2586523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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