Top Secret Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Ok, so with Blood Angels Assault Squads are scoring. They have the option of removing their jump packs for a 35 point discount on dedicated transports. Landraiders, all variants, are dedicated transports. So you're telling me you could field three SCORING Crusaders for... 945.... without taking up a single heavy support slot? ;) Raider spam anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Raider spam, meet melta spam. Then who's laughting? Probably not the tyranids or daemons... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2361594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Raider spam, meet melta spam.Then who's laughting? Probably not the tyranids or daemons... Thats called MC spam and screamer spam(for daemons :)) :wallbash: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2361607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Yeah.... doing it close to enemy lines is a bad idea in most cases. Doint it far from enemy lines changes very little in the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2361610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Vehicles cannot claim objectives IIRC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2361614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 True, but when carrying a scoring unit inside them, they can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2361625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadarn Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Yes, but any normal land raider with a scoring unit inside will count as scoring. Vanilla marines could plonk scouts inside Land Raiders and use them to score on objectives. Granted, BA get the bonus of them not counting as heavy support slots, but if you've already spent 750+ on land raiders, then you're not going to have a great many points left over for heavy support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2362219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 In theory you can have 17 Land Raiders in one BA FOC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2362341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparhawk Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 We can get 6 from troops. 3 from Elites 3 from Fast 3 from Heavy But I don't remember what HQs can take their own dedicated transports. Of course I could just be blind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2362443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Honor Gaurd perhaps? I dont have a codex on me. Not that it matters... at that point your going to see titans running around ripping apart your army. Frankly though, Ive thought they should do the point rebate thing for years with assault marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2362526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Honor Gaurd perhaps? I dont have a codex on me. Not that it matters... at that point your going to see titans running around ripping apart your army. Frankly though, Ive thought they should do the point rebate thing for years with assault marines. Correct, Honour Guard. And 17 Godhammers will put some hurt down on a Titan. The main thing that annoys me about BA DTs is that their Assault Marines can have RBs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2362531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 For the price of 17 Godhammers, not including the people inside them, you can have almost six Warhound Titans. Once you add in the minimum squads inside them you get that sixth warhound and a reaver for fun. Start adding upgrades to those squads and you could probly have a second reaver. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2362534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 In theory you can have 17 Land Raiders in one BA FOC Black Templars have had the option for 14 for five years... :huh: 6 for troop slots 3 for elite slots (sword brethren or terminators) 3 in normal heavy slots 2 for carrying Command squads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2363708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 For the price of 17 Godhammers, not including the people inside them, you can have almost six Warhound Titans. Once you add in the minimum squads inside them you get that sixth warhound and a reaver for fun. Start adding upgrades to those squads and you could probly have a second reaver. 17 Godhammer Land Raiders with stuff inside them could make a pretty reasonable dent in your Titan force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2363710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 unless they had turbo lasers.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2363782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If I had 6 warhound titans I would be sooo happy. Heck, I would be happy with just one Mars Pattern; those things are just drop dead gorgeous. *sigh* wishful thinking Anyway, If someone is cocky enough to buy 3 land raiders at 945 points I'm sure someone will tailor their list to destroy them. I see a drop pod melta spam would ruin that Blood Angel player's day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2363807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Secret Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 In theory you can have 17 Land Raiders in one BA FOC Black Templars have had the option for 14 for five years... :) 6 for troop slots 3 for elite slots (sword brethren or terminators) 3 in normal heavy slots 2 for carrying Command squads That wasn't the point I was making. The point I was making was that BA get a discount on Land Raiders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2364048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 That wasn't the point I was making. The point I was making was that BA get a discount on Land Raiders. I see. I haven't read the BA book, so I can't comment on the discount. That discount would be nice to have. Honestly, aside from apocalypse, I've never run more than one LR in a list anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2364090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 :< the only problem is the discount is the same regardless of 10man or 5man squads :< but it's better than nothing I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2364219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warprat Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The "discount" isn't really that good when you are required to remove the jump packs. If you wanted foot assaults in the first place, you come out ahead. But, the cheaper Razorback is great, because you probably only wanted 5 guys anyway... even though a 5 man assault squad is not all that useful, compared to a 10 man assault squad. They just can't deal out as much damage, and the sarge has fewer red shirts to take the hit. Razorback spam is effective, but then you change the entire Blood Angels assault methology for something more gunline/shooty. Warprat ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2364238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The BA Heavy Flamer Razorback is a genuinely scary machine. Turn#1 move 18" and pop smoke, Turn#2 move 12" and set fire to something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/198265-let-me-get-this-right-ba-dedicated-transports/#findComment-2364384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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