Brother Balthial Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 My question is about Dark Angel apothecaries. They allow one failed save to be ignored. If a marine is hit by an AP3 weapon, is that a failed save, or did the model never get a save to fail? From the wording in the BRB I think the save was negated so I cant use the apothecary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 If i recall its not failed save, but unsaved wound, so you should be in the clear, but double check that cus im pulling from ememory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Nope. the one advanage that a DA apothecary has over the SM is that it allows a save against a plasma weapon., In that a plasma weapon is AP2 but not an ID weapon (for marines ) the apo can save the model. A model that cannot take a save is the same as a model that failed a save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion de Heaven Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Well the greatest advantage of DA apothecary is that you can ignore a failed save of ANY sort for ANY model so also cover save for your land raider :jaw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Balthial Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 I am all for just ignoring 1 unsaved wound. The problem is the DA codex does no unsaved wound. It says a "failed" wound. The BRB then says if the AP bets your save you get no save. So how do you fail something you never got? It does say it can never be used against ID and close combat that ignore saves. AP equal to or higher then save BRB pg. 20 "... the target gets no armour save at all." Apothecary allows a model DA Codex pg. 25 "... to ignore a failed Save (of any sort)." I need a page number or faq that I can show people if it comes up in games. The RAI might have been 1 unsaved wound, but it seems the RAW is 1 failed save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I am all for just ignoring 1 unsaved wound. The problem is the DA codex does no unsaved wound. It says a "failed" wound. The BRB then says if the AP bets your save you get no save. So how do you fail something you never got? It does say it can never be used against ID and close combat that ignore saves. AP equal to or higher then save BRB pg. 20 "... the target gets no armour save at all." Apothecary allows a model DA Codex pg. 25 "... to ignore a failed Save (of any sort)." I need a page number or faq that I can show people if it comes up in games. The RAI might have been 1 unsaved wound, but it seems the RAW is 1 failed save. no "armour" save... so you can take other kinds... + also if you can't take a save it's an automatic fail. If you applied for a job, went to the interview and didn't get the job you would say you have failed to get the job... wouldn't it be just as much a fail if you didn't make it to the interview... not having a go is one of the biggest failures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Hellios has the right of it- unless its one of those rare attacks, such as a Warscythe, you can ignore the first wound, assuming the apothecairy isnt engaged in CC at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Balthial Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Thanks, I missed the no armor save vs. failed save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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