40k Junkie Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 So I was just reading in the GW 2010 Ard Boyz rulings and it says that only GW models maybe used... So unless you want to spam Canis Wolves, looks like no thunderwolves in Ard Boyz :tu: Am I miss reading it? http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Custom..._2010_Rules.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Conversions have to start with Citadels and consist majorly of Citadel models. If you ask me, that means glue a bunch of Citadel pieces into the shape of a T-wolf and then greenstuff over it. Otherwise... Yeah, sounds about right, but I don't normally run a tourney scene, so I may be wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridlocked Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Greenstuff is citadel product right :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Yeah pretty much. You have to buy Canis models or convert Juggernoughts/Goblin Wolves/Chaos Hounds. Its asinine, but thats GW for you. Force people to pay like $200+ for models that are universally despised and ridiculed so that you can participate in their tournaments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Greenstuff is citadel product right :P So are the actual Space Marines that'll be sitting on your third-party wolf. I'm not too familiar with 'ard boyz either, but I don't think they have a problem with mixing in things from non-citidel models for units that GW have not yet made available. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Well I would consider the upper torso, all the weapons, all the flocking, and the base itself to be majority of the model being GW product. Just my $.02 though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 If you put a marine on it's back it is usually fine. I just did a tourny and they said it was cool. As it had 17% Citidel. Which was the old Rogue trader rule. If they do not have the model for it no worries if you use 17% GW stuff on it. So you should be fine with a Marine on it's back. Only rule nazis will say different and you do not want to play with those people anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJumppanen Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Well I would consider the upper torso, all the weapons, all the flocking, and the base itself to be majority of the model being GW product. Just my $.02 though. And if that isn't enough try some outrageous lies like: "Rest if built from the junk and GS". In case of those TWMs from mrDandy you may wish to add some GS anyway to alter them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Origional sculpts are normally exempt from that rule, but mostly whave Ive heard over the years is 50%+ GW/Citadel miniatures, though they can be from any range, line, or era. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Well I can see how the rule would effective for something like Storm Ravens where the range of scratch built models would be pretty extensive to constantly juggle rules around as far as hull size, base, etc, etc. But Mr Dandy or Russian chicks, or the new Phillipino ones are all standard base and would pose no problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Hell, the D&D ones can be placed on standard bases too... Just a big annoyance here as I was planning TWC for Ard'Boys... sigh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyRex Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I am feeling pretty pissed off myself. I worried that my TWC from Mrs.Velard will not work. I invested a lot of time into these models and list to not be able to use them. I'm wondering if I should work on something else? Rex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Kaelgrim Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Ask the Tourney Organizers beforehand if you can. Try to contact them and see if they think its cool or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 It says conversions must be majority citadel miniatures could add some hordes of dead to the base or fighting off a few enemies on the base or citadel terrain pieces as the bases are quite big. but ring the organisers to see what they say Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I'm more annoyed that I missed that the first read through. >_< Ruling has been previously with organizer 75% GW/Citadel for anything official; will double check. I just grate at having to "add" to the design I have put down Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korhal Ragingspirit Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 So if I make my own Thunderwolves out of Green Stuff and use sprue bits to form the inner core of the wolf... does that count? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 yes. but if you use manowar shield as ss then you will have a good chance of getting DQed . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necron God Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 THis is why I dont play in GW Events, people should be able to use models they like as long as it is clear to see what they are!!! Saying that my thunderwolves are all converted from canis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Got pics? I'm curious if you managed to distill something decent from the putrescence that GW released... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winternight Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zI7vEPAiQWc/S6dWGgxBzFI/AAAAAAAAASY/4GJH98H4_UU/s800/twc-10.jpg Of course, no Ard Boyz in Australia... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasLAD Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I just grabbed a couple white lions and threw wolf heads on them and added some green stuff. Then I put magnets on the backs and on my lord's bodies that way if someone cries about my use of a non GW model then I'll pull out the drastically shorter GW figure and proceed to be an absolute jerk about rules/LoS. If they don't say anything I'll just play like I normally do, for fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenxis Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 THis is why I dont play in GW Events, people should be able to use models they like as long as it is clear to see what they are!!! Now the last GW tournament that I went to was almost 10 years ago but they did allow plenty of non-GW models. What they really don't want to have is entire proxy armies using models from different ranges and or children's toys. Caveat: when possible people used suitable GW bitz, the conversions were over the top wicked, limited to some centerpiece models (edit: or abuse model size / LoS / etc) ie: don't take it for a given that thunderwolves are excluded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeddon Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Woo Dire Wolf conversions are legal. Wrong base size though. Needs to be on what, 60, 65 mm round base? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Roxtar Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 They seemed fairly flexible when I took my converted whirlwind to a GW tournament. The entire weapon assembly was from a non GW kit. Won best army too so they cant be that anal about it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/DSCN0120copy.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2377866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I say boycott the ARD boyz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/199585-ard-boyz-only-gw-models-allowed/#findComment-2378004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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